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Advocate for dedicated commercial loading zones. They're not even doing that bare minimum. But it's crucial to point out this simple fact, and I don't think y

Advocate for dedicated commercial loading zones. They're not even doing that bare minimum. But it's crucial to point out this simple fact, and I don't think you've quite internalized it yet: Parking illegally in safety infrastructure KILLS PEOPLE. Like, multiple people are dead every year in NYC solely because a vehicle was parked illegally. So regardless of anything else, they should not be doing that. If deliveries take longer, so be it. It's not acceptable to take other people's lives like this just to deliver some packages more quickly. The problem is as bad as it is because drivers break the law and aren't sufficiently punished for it; if they actually had to be compliant with the law, then we'd see how badly things are creaking and be forced to change things, by adding more safe loading zones.

oefrha 7y ago
> Parking illegally in safety infrastructure KILLS PEOPLE. Parking illegally in safe infrastructure has the potential to kill people. But increase in parking violations doesn’t say anything about parking illegally in safety infrastructure. I’ve had my fair share of parking tickets throughout my life but those were things like parking somewhere where I didn’t have a permit (or dumber, I had a permit but the permit was partially blocked from sight) or parked somewhere for too long, and those weren’t safety related. So, yeah, “they should not be doing that”, but the article doesn’t say “they’re doing that”. Do you have evidence that delivery trucks actually block say fire hydrants on a regular basis?
- CydeWeys 7y ago
  I bike the streets of NYC daily. I can tell you with absolute certainty* that delivery trucks frequently park in bike lanes (which this article talks about), which directly causes the deaths of several cyclists per year. You want their names? There's articles written every time a cyclist is run over, and often enough it's because someone was illegally parked in the bike lane and they were forced into a vehicle lane and then run down. As an interesting side note, emergency vehicles like ambulances and fire trucks will use bike lanes when necessary to bypass vehicle congestion, but of course this doesn't work when the bike lane is blocked by an illegally parked vehicle. The cyclists who happen to be in the lane can of course simply pull their bikes up onto the sidewalk to let the emergency vehicle(s) through. * Here's an example of 5 trucks parked in the bike lane in as many blocks from one of my morning commutes earlier this week: https://twitter.com/CydeWeys/status/1187386128288174080 https://twitter.com/CydeWeys/status/1187386128288174080 This is not an extreme outlier; it's typical.
- ClumsyPilot 7y ago
  So we have half a million violations and complete disregard for the law, but you are saying they are not causing safety issues? You are the one that should be bringing in evidence to support this strange position. If we assume random chance, statistics aren't on your side. And "potential to kill people" * "millions of people" = "dead people"

oefrha 7y ago

> Parking illegally in safety infrastructure KILLS PEOPLE. Parking illegally in safe infrastructure has the potential to kill people. But increase in parking violations doesn’t say anything about parking illegally in safety infrastructure. I’ve had my fair share of parking tickets throughout my life but those were things like parking somewhere where I didn’t have a permit (or dumber, I had a permit but the permit was partially blocked from sight) or parked somewhere for too long, and those weren’t safety related. So, yeah, “they should not be doing that”, but the article doesn’t say “they’re doing that”. Do you have evidence that delivery trucks actually block say fire hydrants on a regular basis?

CydeWeys 7y ago
I bike the streets of NYC daily. I can tell you with absolute certainty* that delivery trucks frequently park in bike lanes (which this article talks about), which directly causes the deaths of several cyclists per year. You want their names? There's articles written every time a cyclist is run over, and often enough it's because someone was illegally parked in the bike lane and they were forced into a vehicle lane and then run down. As an interesting side note, emergency vehicles like ambulances and fire trucks will use bike lanes when necessary to bypass vehicle congestion, but of course this doesn't work when the bike lane is blocked by an illegally parked vehicle. The cyclists who happen to be in the lane can of course simply pull their bikes up onto the sidewalk to let the emergency vehicle(s) through. * Here's an example of 5 trucks parked in the bike lane in as many blocks from one of my morning commutes earlier this week: https://twitter.com/CydeWeys/status/1187386128288174080 https://twitter.com/CydeWeys/status/1187386128288174080 This is not an extreme outlier; it's typical.
ClumsyPilot 7y ago
So we have half a million violations and complete disregard for the law, but you are saying they are not causing safety issues? You are the one that should be bringing in evidence to support this strange position. If we assume random chance, statistics aren't on your side. And "potential to kill people" * "millions of people" = "dead people"