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"Google dropped out last October without submitting a formal bid, saying the military work conflicted with its corporate principles, which preclude the use of a

"Google dropped out last October without submitting a formal bid, saying the military work conflicted with its corporate principles, which preclude the use of artificial intelligence in weaponry." <3

jrcii 7y ago
Microsoft: hold my beer.
mav3rick 7y ago
Thanks for acknowledging this. They did the right thing at least in my eyes.
Rainymood 7y ago
Only after their employees revolted. Never forget this. Only after the employees spoke up.
- steve_musk 7y ago
  What point are you trying to make? The employees make up the company.
  - baobabKoodaa 7y ago
    That any perceived moral fibre in Google should be attributed to its rank and file, rather than its leadership?
- wolco 7y ago
  What do we make of the remaining bidders? aws.. the employees would be fired if they revolted. Microsoft the employees didn't care to revolt. The fact that google employees could revolt and change a big decision says something. Tons of stories on why google is evil and microsoft and amazon are the toast of the town. I would rather have google in that position vs amazon/microsoft/oracle because there is a soul and heart at the core of google. The core of Microsoft is different same with Amazon.
  - dragonelite 7y ago
    Didn't Microsoft employees revolt when Microsoft was making some special Hololens devices for the US army?
    - mav3rick 7y ago
      They were quickly clamped down even for this contract.
    - shmed 7y ago
      About 50 people signed some petition (most of them weren't even working on hololens). Not much out of the 120 000 people working at MSFT
ne9xt 7y ago
come on... do you really think that's the reason google didn't go after a 10B contract? does google not like money or prefer to avoid working with the US government?? because I think they do...
- jefftk 7y ago
  There was a large internal revolt: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/technology/google-pentagon-project-maven.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/technology/google-pentago...
- wolco 7y ago
  10B is not the profit but the entire contract. There is less gravy than it first seems.
mcqueenjordan 7y ago
That was the PR spin, but in fact they lacked several of the basic requirements for the contract.
- jasonvorhe 7y ago
  Source?
- stult 7y ago
  The DoD wasn't going to touch them in any case after they pulled out of Maven
- mda 7y ago
  No, after cancellation of maven, it made no sense to pursue it.

"Google dropped out last October without submitting a formal bid, saying the military work conflicted with its corporate principles, which preclude the use of artificial intelligence in weaponry." <3

jrcii 7y ago

Microsoft: hold my beer.

mav3rick 7y ago

Thanks for acknowledging this. They did the right thing at least in my eyes.

Rainymood 7y ago

Only after their employees revolted. Never forget this. Only after the employees spoke up.

steve_musk 7y ago
What point are you trying to make? The employees make up the company.
- baobabKoodaa 7y ago
  That any perceived moral fibre in Google should be attributed to its rank and file, rather than its leadership?
wolco 7y ago
What do we make of the remaining bidders? aws.. the employees would be fired if they revolted. Microsoft the employees didn't care to revolt. The fact that google employees could revolt and change a big decision says something. Tons of stories on why google is evil and microsoft and amazon are the toast of the town. I would rather have google in that position vs amazon/microsoft/oracle because there is a soul and heart at the core of google. The core of Microsoft is different same with Amazon.
- dragonelite 7y ago
  Didn't Microsoft employees revolt when Microsoft was making some special Hololens devices for the US army?
  - mav3rick 7y ago
    They were quickly clamped down even for this contract.
  - shmed 7y ago
    About 50 people signed some petition (most of them weren't even working on hololens). Not much out of the 120 000 people working at MSFT

ne9xt 7y ago

come on... do you really think that's the reason google didn't go after a 10B contract? does google not like money or prefer to avoid working with the US government?? because I think they do...

jefftk 7y ago
There was a large internal revolt: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/technology/google-pentagon-project-maven.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/technology/google-pentago...
wolco 7y ago
10B is not the profit but the entire contract. There is less gravy than it first seems.

mcqueenjordan 7y ago

That was the PR spin, but in fact they lacked several of the basic requirements for the contract.

jasonvorhe 7y ago
Source?
stult 7y ago
The DoD wasn't going to touch them in any case after they pulled out of Maven
mda 7y ago
No, after cancellation of maven, it made no sense to pursue it.