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China is not in any sense socialist or even communist. It lacks free health care, public housing, and state service provision. It is neither internationalist no

by dbspin 7y ago

China is not in any sense socialist or even communist. It lacks free health care, public housing, and state service provision. It is neither internationalist nor collectivist. It's a hybrid single party ethno-nationalist capitalist state, or if you prefer a fascist oligarchy. The Chinese economy is overvalued, and economic growth is grinding to a halt despite massive government spending. https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3033564/china-doubles-value-infrastructure-project-approvals-stave https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3033564/c... Every western country is a counter example.

oefrha 7y ago
Randomly throwing the "fascism" word around completely undermines any credibility you might have left. Also, I'll probably take World Bank's data more seriously than an unsubstantiated claim by some random guy on the Internet. Oh, and it wasn't me who brought up India as the counterexample.
- imustbeevil 7y ago
  > Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy > Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties. Such a state is led by a strong leader—such as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist party—to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society. Using a word exactly correctly is not "random". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
  - dang 7y ago
    Please don't use HN for ideological battle. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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- dang 7y ago
  Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That just makes the thread even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 7y ago
Please don't use HN for nationalistic or ideological battle. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by dbspin 7y ago

oefrha 7y ago

Randomly throwing the "fascism" word around completely undermines any credibility you might have left. Also, I'll probably take World Bank's data more seriously than an unsubstantiated claim by some random guy on the Internet. Oh, and it wasn't me who brought up India as the counterexample.

imustbeevil 7y ago
> Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy > Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties. Such a state is led by a strong leader—such as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist party—to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society. Using a word exactly correctly is not "random". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
- dang 7y ago
  Please don't use HN for ideological battle. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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dang 7y ago
Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That just makes the thread even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dang 7y ago

Please don't use HN for nationalistic or ideological battle. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html