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Might be a good time to mention a new development with Yahoo Mail. They now appear to use a form of shadow ban. They will accept an email, with all outward sym
by huhtenberg 7y ago
Might be a good time to mention a new development with Yahoo Mail. They now appear to use a form of shadow ban.
They will accept an email, with all outward symptoms being normal, but it will not appear anywhere in the user's mailbox. Not even in the Spam folder.
This started few months ago when we were sending out our (rather infrequent) newsletter. 5th or so message to ...@yahoo.com address failed with
421 4.7.0 [TSS04] Messages from xx.xx.xx.xx temporarily
deferred due to user complaints - 4.16.55.1; see
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN3434.html
(in reply to MAIL FROM command)
That's with just a couple of seconds in. They kept replying with 421 for a while, but later switched to just dropping connections. Then, in the course of the next few days, they would accept 1-2 emails and then go back to denying them again.
As I mentioned above, the "best" part is that none of these emails would actually make it into recipient's mailboxes. They disappear.
Better yet, all subsequent (non-bulk) emails have the same fate as do _replies_ to emails from Ymail users. This last bit is what makes this look like a shadow ban.
All attempts to contact Yahoo went unanswered, including those made through Gmail. Ditto for whitelisting requests through their web form.
If anyone has any ideas what the hell's going on, I'd be curious to hear them.
- driverdan 7y agoI don't think this is new. Many email providers will throttle / blackhole you if they decide you're sending too fast or see too many bounces. Slow down your send rate, make sure your server is configured correctly, and prune your lists.
- huhtenberg 7y ago"Many providers" - any concrete examples? For an SPF/DKIM'd server that's been at the same IP for nearly a decade and had not a single spamming incident. PS. The list is immaculately maintained, the server is configured as properly as it gets and very conservatively rate-throttled. There's nothing obvious.
- baobabKoodaa 7y agoGmail also occasionally blackholes mail.