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If you would have actually read the link in the post you're replying to, you would know that Gmail is not accepting mail from me despite that I've spent a huge

If you would have actually read the link in the post you're replying to, you would know that Gmail is not accepting mail from me despite that I've spent a huge amount of time in verifying that everything is configured correctly. Also: please stop spreading unsubstantiated claims about your magical server magically sending mail past Gmail's spam filters. There's virtually no chance of that being true, and if it somehow was true, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

perennate 7y ago
> Also: please stop spreading unsubstantiated claims about your magical server magically sending mail past Gmail's spam filters. There's virtually no chance of that being true, and if it somehow was true, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'm sure most people who run low-volume mail servers here have no problems sending to Gmail. I don't know why you think this is an extraordinary claim -- I can understand that they often block legitimate mail like in your case, but that doesn't mean that everyone has the same issue. I have occasional issues sending to Gmail but most of the time they accept it and don't mark it spam.
- throwaway2048 7y ago
  >I'm sure most people who run low-volume mail servers here have no problems sending to Gmail. Based on direct experience and >testing< (I have talked to about 20 people with personal mail servers about this, and got them to attempt to send me email, on an account that had never interacted with their domain before), 100% of their emails were spam boxed. Lots of people test gmail with their personal accounts, and think that email to gmail in general is delivered. In my experience, it basically never is if you are a small sender.
- baobabKoodaa 7y ago
  > I'm sure most people who run low-volume mail servers here have no problems sending to Gmail. I don't know why you think this is an extraordinary claim Where are all these magical people with these magical abilities? How curious that not a single one of them is able to post any kind of evidence to support these incredulous claims. And funny how my comments on HN are getting downvoted and hidden when I ask for proof.
ViViDboarder 7y ago
I run a personal mail server for just myself and I’ve been getting full delivery to Gmail so far as well. Same with Outlook. I’m waiting for the day they try to shut me down.
- baobabKoodaa 7y ago
  Can you show any evidence for these claims?
- baobabKoodaa 7y ago
  I don't believe you. Can you show proof?
Avamander 7y ago
I don't think it's magic, but okay, I don't have a reasonable way without doxing myself to have you test it out yourself.
- baobabKoodaa 7y ago
  There's plenty of low effort ways you could provide proof while maintaining relative anonymity (if you actually wanted to support your claims with evidence). For example, you can run a GlockApps test (5 minutes, free) and then take a screenshot of the results with identifying information blanked out.
  - Avamander 7y ago
    Because OP talked about Google not allowing small players to send e-mail here's my server's deliverability results to Google: https://i.imgur.com/sceZogI.png https://i.imgur.com/sceZogI.png If you're wondering about the blacklist number, that's an error - the source site claims it knows nothing.
    - baobabKoodaa 7y ago
      Thanks for posting this!

perennate 7y ago

> Also: please stop spreading unsubstantiated claims about your magical server magically sending mail past Gmail's spam filters. There's virtually no chance of that being true, and if it somehow was true, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'm sure most people who run low-volume mail servers here have no problems sending to Gmail. I don't know why you think this is an extraordinary claim -- I can understand that they often block legitimate mail like in your case, but that doesn't mean that everyone has the same issue. I have occasional issues sending to Gmail but most of the time they accept it and don't mark it spam.

throwaway2048 7y ago
>I'm sure most people who run low-volume mail servers here have no problems sending to Gmail. Based on direct experience and >testing< (I have talked to about 20 people with personal mail servers about this, and got them to attempt to send me email, on an account that had never interacted with their domain before), 100% of their emails were spam boxed. Lots of people test gmail with their personal accounts, and think that email to gmail in general is delivered. In my experience, it basically never is if you are a small sender.
baobabKoodaa 7y ago
> I'm sure most people who run low-volume mail servers here have no problems sending to Gmail. I don't know why you think this is an extraordinary claim Where are all these magical people with these magical abilities? How curious that not a single one of them is able to post any kind of evidence to support these incredulous claims. And funny how my comments on HN are getting downvoted and hidden when I ask for proof.

ViViDboarder 7y ago

I run a personal mail server for just myself and I’ve been getting full delivery to Gmail so far as well. Same with Outlook. I’m waiting for the day they try to shut me down.

baobabKoodaa 7y ago
Can you show any evidence for these claims?
baobabKoodaa 7y ago
I don't believe you. Can you show proof?

Avamander 7y ago

I don't think it's magic, but okay, I don't have a reasonable way without doxing myself to have you test it out yourself.

baobabKoodaa 7y ago
There's plenty of low effort ways you could provide proof while maintaining relative anonymity (if you actually wanted to support your claims with evidence). For example, you can run a GlockApps test (5 minutes, free) and then take a screenshot of the results with identifying information blanked out.
- Avamander 7y ago
  Because OP talked about Google not allowing small players to send e-mail here's my server's deliverability results to Google: https://i.imgur.com/sceZogI.png https://i.imgur.com/sceZogI.png If you're wondering about the blacklist number, that's an error - the source site claims it knows nothing.
  - baobabKoodaa 7y ago
    Thanks for posting this!