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This is vaporware. VW are stuck. They are not able to innovate. VW EVs are always tomorrow, whereas actual manufacturers do deliver EVs now : Nissan and Renault

by jojo14 7y ago

This is vaporware. VW are stuck. They are not able to innovate. VW EVs are always tomorrow, whereas actual manufacturers do deliver EVs now : Nissan and Renault besides Tesla.

ravedave5 7y ago
Porsche (a division of VW) is not vaporware in the EV space.
- lnsru 7y ago
  Porsche isn’t mainstream car. It’s a toy for riches, not for salaried employees. Edit: I was wrong. I could lease Macan for ~700€/month.
  - ct0 7y ago
    Porsche pushes tech in the higher end cars, make it work well and reduce costs, then eventually ends up in audi's / vw's. Look at how porsche 919 hybrid is making power, its totally new.
  - izacus 7y ago
    Porsche is in the same market segment as Tesla is.
    - r00fus 7y ago
      Let's see when deliveries actually happen in the US. That is next year. Also numbers are unclear on how many will be delivered.
  - BeetleB 7y ago
    Plenty of salaried employees buy Teslas, and Porsches are similarly priced. Anyone can buy a Porsche with a payment plan. Unfortunately, I know someone who did.
- bigYahnz 7y ago
  Neither is the Audi, but as of yet, nobody has been able to compete with the best gas-powered cars of their respective price brackets like Tesla has. Everyone has A LOT of catch up to do if they care about getting enthusiasts to make the switch. Which...they probably couldn't give two shits about :(
ct0 7y ago
VW is really a TON of brands, all pushing for the same thing. ITs more about adoption of vw's target market then anything.
TheMinorityGuy 7y ago
EV or not at least make a pretty car. Even a Camry looks better than that horrible looking VW EV. German car manufacturers will have to innovate harder and need to make inroads in more competitive markets like USA and India instead of relying on Europe.
nuclear_eclipse 7y ago
You do realize that VW has been shipping and selling the e-Golf EV for many years now, and in good quantities? They're all over the bay area, and seem almost as popular as the Leaf.

by jojo14 7y ago

This is vaporware. VW are stuck. They are not able to innovate. VW EVs are always tomorrow, whereas actual manufacturers do deliver EVs now : Nissan and Renault besides Tesla.

ravedave5 7y ago

Porsche (a division of VW) is not vaporware in the EV space.

lnsru 7y ago
Porsche isn’t mainstream car. It’s a toy for riches, not for salaried employees. Edit: I was wrong. I could lease Macan for ~700€/month.
- ct0 7y ago
  Porsche pushes tech in the higher end cars, make it work well and reduce costs, then eventually ends up in audi's / vw's. Look at how porsche 919 hybrid is making power, its totally new.
- izacus 7y ago
  Porsche is in the same market segment as Tesla is.
  - r00fus 7y ago
    Let's see when deliveries actually happen in the US. That is next year. Also numbers are unclear on how many will be delivered.
- BeetleB 7y ago
  Plenty of salaried employees buy Teslas, and Porsches are similarly priced. Anyone can buy a Porsche with a payment plan. Unfortunately, I know someone who did.
bigYahnz 7y ago
Neither is the Audi, but as of yet, nobody has been able to compete with the best gas-powered cars of their respective price brackets like Tesla has. Everyone has A LOT of catch up to do if they care about getting enthusiasts to make the switch. Which...they probably couldn't give two shits about :(

ct0 7y ago

VW is really a TON of brands, all pushing for the same thing. ITs more about adoption of vw's target market then anything.

TheMinorityGuy 7y ago

EV or not at least make a pretty car. Even a Camry looks better than that horrible looking VW EV. German car manufacturers will have to innovate harder and need to make inroads in more competitive markets like USA and India instead of relying on Europe.

nuclear_eclipse 7y ago

You do realize that VW has been shipping and selling the e-Golf EV for many years now, and in good quantities? They're all over the bay area, and seem almost as popular as the Leaf.