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It’s pretty much guaranteed that the next generation will grow up with the experience of always watched. Either they get watched by the parents who never let th

It’s pretty much guaranteed that the next generation will grow up with the experience of always watched. Either they get watched by the parents who never let them do anything alone or by technology. Pretty sad in my view but almost inevitable.

anon9001 7y ago
As someone raised by helicopter parents that were way ahead of their time, this has been kind of nice for me. It's pretty amusing to me that I used to be the weird one connected to the internet all the time because I pretty much couldn't do anything else, and now that's a shared experience with the entire new generation.
- raxxorrax 7y ago
  Heh, shared pain is lessened. Just sad for the other kids though.
gerbilly 7y ago
I think you are right about everything but the timescale: the current generation of kids already grew up under constant surveillance...by their parents. When I grew up, during evenings weekends and holidays, kids ran around in the neighborhood with their friends from sunup to sundown. Outside of mealtimes, parents had no idea where we were. A generation later and parents started to time-box everything their kids do, soccer practise, play dates etc. I think this is what makes millenials so comfortable with online surveillance, they see it as benevolent and benign, just like their parents were.
- hackinthebochs 7y ago
  How did the "free range" generation (before it was unusual enough to even have a name) turn into the overbearing parenting generation?
  - gerbilly 7y ago
    The everse network effect driven by: 1) Ambition for kids to get into the right preschool so they can get into Harvard or whatever, causing more parents to put their kids in 'enriching' scheduled activities. 2) Unreasonable fear fueled by the media. Ironically, stranger child abduction gas been declining steadily for decades and is at an all time low. This has effectively removed more free range kids to the point now that if you wanted your kids to go play outside, they wouldn't find any other kids out there to play with. This is why I call it a reverse network effect. The value in playing outside for a kid is now lower since there are fewer potential playmates out there.
vokep 7y ago
As sad as this seems, theres always an ebb and flow of things. Many of these kids will grow up and accept that "this is the way things are", but many others once they learn history will yearn for the world the learn about, where they don't have to think about what they write and if anything might be flagged. Such kids will probably also become experts at evading monitors, a portion of which may become deeply passionate activists for privacy. Its not all doom and gloom, there's hope for things to go the other way, towards privacy and freedom.
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shantly 7y ago
Starting with kindergarten at my kids' school, they send home photos of the kids every so often during the day and also periodically have the kids post assignments they're working on (on their iPads—yes they give the kindergarteners iPads, god I wish they wouldn't but they do, and this is one of the good schools in the area). I worry about the effect this near-real-time performance thing will have on them—it seems different, somehow, from just knowing your parents will see a graded paper come home in a week or two, to do it and immediately post it, where parents can comment and everything. It's creepy.

anon9001 7y ago

As someone raised by helicopter parents that were way ahead of their time, this has been kind of nice for me. It's pretty amusing to me that I used to be the weird one connected to the internet all the time because I pretty much couldn't do anything else, and now that's a shared experience with the entire new generation.

raxxorrax 7y ago
Heh, shared pain is lessened. Just sad for the other kids though.

gerbilly 7y ago

I think you are right about everything but the timescale: the current generation of kids already grew up under constant surveillance...by their parents. When I grew up, during evenings weekends and holidays, kids ran around in the neighborhood with their friends from sunup to sundown. Outside of mealtimes, parents had no idea where we were. A generation later and parents started to time-box everything their kids do, soccer practise, play dates etc. I think this is what makes millenials so comfortable with online surveillance, they see it as benevolent and benign, just like their parents were.

hackinthebochs 7y ago
How did the "free range" generation (before it was unusual enough to even have a name) turn into the overbearing parenting generation?
- gerbilly 7y ago
  The everse network effect driven by: 1) Ambition for kids to get into the right preschool so they can get into Harvard or whatever, causing more parents to put their kids in 'enriching' scheduled activities. 2) Unreasonable fear fueled by the media. Ironically, stranger child abduction gas been declining steadily for decades and is at an all time low. This has effectively removed more free range kids to the point now that if you wanted your kids to go play outside, they wouldn't find any other kids out there to play with. This is why I call it a reverse network effect. The value in playing outside for a kid is now lower since there are fewer potential playmates out there.

vokep 7y ago

As sad as this seems, theres always an ebb and flow of things. Many of these kids will grow up and accept that "this is the way things are", but many others once they learn history will yearn for the world the learn about, where they don't have to think about what they write and if anything might be flagged. Such kids will probably also become experts at evading monitors, a portion of which may become deeply passionate activists for privacy. Its not all doom and gloom, there's hope for things to go the other way, towards privacy and freedom.

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shantly 7y ago

Starting with kindergarten at my kids' school, they send home photos of the kids every so often during the day and also periodically have the kids post assignments they're working on (on their iPads—yes they give the kindergarteners iPads, god I wish they wouldn't but they do, and this is one of the good schools in the area). I worry about the effect this near-real-time performance thing will have on them—it seems different, somehow, from just knowing your parents will see a graded paper come home in a week or two, to do it and immediately post it, where parents can comment and everything. It's creepy.