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Not mentioned in this article (although it's in the Release Notes [1]): the amazing work done regarding the macOS compositor. This should give pretty noticeabl
by kemenaran 7y ago
Not mentioned in this article (although it's in the Release Notes [1]): the amazing work done regarding the macOS compositor.
This should give pretty noticeable speed and battery improvements on Retina Macbooks.
[1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/70.0/releasenotes/#new https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/70.0/releasenotes/#new
- adfkbuvasdas 7y agoGame changer! Now from my POV Firefox is the best desktop browser, period. No caveats.
- redblacktree 7y agoIs there a good transition path for someone who uses a lot of Google products? In particular, I use Chrome across all my devices, and I depend on the ability to search my history/recent tabs/etc from anywhere. Will Firefox give me the same ability? Is the transition literally just: Install Firefox everywhere and start using it instead?
- pwlb 7y agoFirefox Sync let's you syncronize Bookmarks, Open tabs, Logins, History, Add-ons and Preferences across devices by logging in once with username password
- javajosh 7y agoCouple of questions about this: does FF import Chrome logins? Also, can Mozilla read the data or are they doing client-side-encryption?
- Vinnl 7y agoI'm not sure about the former, but the answer to your second question is yes, they do client-side encryption: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-firefox-sync-keeps-your-data-safe-even-if-tls-fails https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-firefox-sync-keeps-...
- mnoorenberghe 7y agoYes, it can now import logins/passwords from Chrome/Chromium on macOS, Windows support already existed for some years. > Passwords can now be imported from Chrome on macOS in addition to existing support for Windows https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/70.0/releasenotes/ https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/70.0/releasenotes/
- redblacktree 7y agoWow. That's the final bit. Thank you!
- mistermann 7y agoCan each of those be turned on or off per device, and dont get sneakily turned back on during upgrades?
- maximente 7y agoby way of logging in/out, yes
- johnchristopher 7y agoedit: Sorry for anyone I misled. You can't opt a particular kind of data out of syncing per device. You can only enable/disable for the whole account. Yes, each (bookmarks, history, passwords, tabs ) can be turned on or off per device basis.
- mnoorenberghe 7y agoThis is incorrect AFAIK. The sync toggle for a data type is for the whole account, not per-device.
- johnchristopher 7y agoYou are right. Always thought it worked like that but indeed it is for the whole account and not per device. My bad.
- mch82 7y agoHere’s the Sync security FAQ to answer javajosh’s follow up question, which I can’t reply to directly. “How Firefox Sync keeps your data safe even if TLS fails” https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-firefox-sync-keeps-your-data-safe-even-if-tls-fails https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-firefox-sync-keeps-...
- jamiek88 7y agoIf you click on the 'x hours ago' part of the comment next to the username you will get a parent link and can then reply to and save individual comments.
- jedieaston 7y agoPretty much, yes. You’ll have to make a Firefox account, but then tabs and plugins will sync everywhere you log in.
- option_greek 7y agoAlso, passwords.
- OJFord 7y agoAs long as you use it everywhere in the same way you presently use Chrome everywhere, yes. You can also import a certain amount (history & bookmarks, not, I think, current & recent tabs) to get started.
- alimbada 7y ago> Is the transition literally just: Install Firefox everywhere and start using it instead? Yep. I did this about a year ago. You have to create a Mozilla account (if you haven't already) in order to sync your tabs and history across devices, but that should be a given. I find the Firefox sync a bit clunky compared to Chromes though. I think Chrome sends udpates to Google on each change whereas Firefox polls and updates on a schedule which means sometimes if you put a device to sleep (or if you're on iOS and the app gets suspended) your history and tab state won't be propagated and it'll be missing on your other devices which can be frustrating when you're away from those devices.
- toyg 7y ago> Will Firefox give me the same ability? Yes. > transition literally just: Install Firefox everywhere and start using it instead? Almost. You will have to create a firefox account and export/import your bookmarks. That's it.
- komali2 7y agoThe only feature you may miss is auto-fill of credit card info. It's saved my ass abroad before.
- kevincrane 7y agoAgreed to what everyone else said, but to me the killer feature of Firefox Sync is that you can send tabs from one browser to another, so I can find links on my work computer and ship them directly to my home computer or phone to read later, and they'll just show up when it syncs next.
- Qqqwxs 7y agoI'm actually not sure if this is a native Chrome feature, but I can instantly send tabs to my other devices with right click > "send to your devices" > list of devices with a Google account signed in (Which is my phone and laptop for me on my desktop).
- helb 7y agoIt's exactly the same in FF: https://i.vgy.me/vBP4rF.png https://i.vgy.me/vBP4rF.png
- meerita 7y agoI'm doing this but it's painful. I am still stuck on GMail.
- GhettoMaestro 7y agoThe performance is what has kept me on Chrome on Mac. Going to re-install FF now and give it a whirl. Thanks for this info!
- lordnacho 7y agoI just tried this. Interestingly I'd left it on v68 and it cooked my MBP, fans all on max immediately. When I updated to 70 it seems to work perfectly. CPU temp in the 40s. Gonna leave it on in the background and see if it suddenly spikes.
- chenster 7y agoThe same here. Have you tried with FF add-ons that normally are the culprit for CPU hogging?
- lordnacho 7y agoYeah, they're all on. Seems to be fine thus far, and there's an article about what they actually did to fix it, so I'm ready to say it's fixed. Only minor gripe is userChrome.css seems to not be used now.
- danlugo92 7y agoWould this bring it up to par with safari's power consumption?
- fpgaminer 7y agoI don't know about other usages, but energy consumption while using YouTube is important to me (usually have something playing while I work) so I just did a quick measurement. Safari 13.0.2 versus Firefox 70.0 versus Chrome 77.0 Playing the same YouTube video at the same quality (1080p) and watching Energy Impact in Activity Monitor while the video played, I saw averages of: Safari used 20, Firefox used 45, Chrome used 45. So on that task at least Safari is still king, but Firefox is on par with Chrome.
- bluegreyred 7y agoI just checked with the Intel Power Gadget on a 2015 MBP 10.14.6, iGPU only, same video at 1080p, package power consumption (CPU + iGPU): ~6,4W average in Safari 13.0.3 ~8,6W average in Firefox 70
- rsynnott 7y agoYou could try a plugin which forces h264 Youtube. Just about anything made in the last decade has mature hardware support for decoding h264, but not necessarily for VP8/9. This may be what's going on here.
- nathancahill 7y agoThe addon I use is: https://github.com/erkserkserks/h264ify https://github.com/erkserkserks/h264ify
- bkor 7y agoSee https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2019/10/22/dramatically-reduced-power-usage-in-firefox-70-on-macos-with-core-animation/ https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2019/10/22/dramatically-red... More work is planned to reduce the energy usage for scrolling and full screen video. Though I guess for your example you don't watch things fullscreen.
- nathancahill 7y agoThis should be the headline feature. I've been following this bug for so long on Bugzilla. The energy improvement is really incredible.
- re4ctor 7y agoMore details on the mac improvements https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2019/10/22/dramatically-reduced-power-usage-in-firefox-70-on-macos-with-core-animation/ https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2019/10/22/dramatically-red...
- chrischen 7y agoBattery life is my primary concern, and unless they release battery life benchmarks I’d be hard pressed to switch off of Safari.
- stevewodil 7y agoYeah, I just switched to Safari recently because of battery life
- shantly 7y agoLast I checked it was looking like they would now be as "good" as Chrome, which is much worse than Safari. Hopefully that improved or will soon improve.
- ztakeo 7y agoRecently switched from Safari to Firefox because of the awful extensions environment in Safari but definitely missing the battery life. Really wish one browser could just get everything right
- Scarbutt 7y agoSafari means no ublock, the web without is annoying.
- otherblocks 7y agoFWIW, I started using 1Blocker recently with Safari and have found it to be quite good. YMMV.
- Scarbutt 7y agonice try.
- perditus 7y agoDisconnect works well enough.
- lpuerto 7y ago
- volkk 7y agodoes anybody know if all of these are available in nightly?
- padenot 7y agoYes, Nightly is (I'm simplifying a bit but it's generally true) release + a few weeks of patches + different default settings, sometimes experimental things enabled, etc. I'm running Nightly on OSX and I confirm all those improvements are there, but more are coming.
- antihero 7y agoTrying it out and it absolutely flies!!
- mosselman 7y agoThis is what I am most excited about. I have been using the improvements through nightly since they were released, I think little more than a month, and I couldn't be happier. I'd hate to have to use Chrome and I welcome the competition to webkit.
- jasin 7y agoAfter years of waiting, it's hard to believe it's finally fixed. Will try this out immediately.
- lucasverra 7y agoi am very very eager to test and use this. FF is my main driver but it's a heat machine on my mac 10.11.6. I wonder if i gain something to upgrade my macOS (4g ram :()
- s_k_ 7y agoanyone knows how firefox is on iOS? vs Safari/Chrome? :) Want to switch, but wondering whether it's worth it cross-platform
- swrobel 7y agoShould this affect memory bloat? Because I still have to restart ffx regularly on my Mac because it uses upward of 8gb RAM over time