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Mailgun Acquires Mailjet
- ponytech 7y agoSame announcement on mailjet website: https://www.mailjet.com/mailgun-acquires-mailjet https://www.mailjet.com/mailgun-acquires-mailjet
- windexh8er 7y agoI've heard varying degrees of feedback on Thoma Bravo - but I'm curious what the general consensus is? It appears, from the outside, that they allow their investment targets to remain autonomous - but I'm curious how hands off (or on) they are.
- jrodom 7y agoThoma Bravo has been a great partner for us. Our management team has maintained a high level of autonomy in driving the vision and strategy of the company including the decision to pursue this acquisition. There is a tremendous network current/past companies with a wealth of experience that we've been able to draw from that already has proven to be incredibly valuable as we continue to scale the company.
- windexh8er 7y agoFantastic, thank you for sharing the insight!
- marksomnian 7y agoKey part: > We’ll continue to maintain separate brands, develop new products for each brand, and enhance our existing offerings. As a Mailgun customer, you aren’t likely to notice any change, except for new features and functionality coming your way soon.
- romanovcode 7y agoEvery company acquisition says this in the beginning. Every.
- ar7hur 7y agohttps://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/ https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/
- rasputinlives 7y agoI bet they drop "gun" from the name
- jaynetics 7y agoThe "gun" one did the acquiring! They'll obviously give Mailjet a more martial name. Mailbomb sounds good and familiar to me.
- mc32 7y agoThey should go for the ambivalent “chainmail”.
- nathancahill 7y agoVisions of FW: FW: FW: FW:
- Infernal 7y agoMailevolence?
- heydenberk 7y agoSemi-related: If you are in the market for an email provider for transactional emails, I encourage you to use Postmark. It's a developer focused company with a simple pricing model and great documentation, and their IPs tend to have great reputation scores. I don't work for them, but I switched from one of these two and am very happy I did.
- brightball 7y agoLast I checked they were still lacking automatic DKIM rotation. Has that been fixed? Mailgun was too fwiw. Sendgrid and Sparkpost are the only two I know of doing this correctly at the moment.
- rglover 7y agoSecond this. Postmark is hands down one of the best developer products I've ever come across (on par with Stripe in terms of quality).
- wastedhours 7y agoThey were one of the first third-party APIs I implemented when I started building things properly - very polished, very easy to onboard and I remember being extremely impressed by the simplicity once it was going.
- thejosh 7y agoYep, used them for inbound/outbound processing and they are pretty flawless.
- filt 7y agoI used to use Postmark but switched to Mailgun. I'm very happy. What would you say is the benefit of Postmark compared to Mailgun?
- theptip 7y agoPostmark seems to have very good diagnostics. They seem to have quite fine grained control over bounce lists too, which Sendgrid is shockingly bad at. I haven’t evaluated Mailgun in detail. Interested to know what factors led you to switch?
- snagglegaggle 7y agoMailmail or Gunjet?
- daolf 7y agoAnd another company acquired coming from efounders, a startup studio specialized in SaaS. I think efounders track record is really interesting, out of 19 companies, 4 acquisition and 3 other project that seems to work very well (AirCall, Front and Spendesk). All their companies are here for the curious: https://www.efounders.com/companies https://www.efounders.com/companies
- yoran 7y agoIndeed, very happy to see this European success.
- asc123 7y agopew pew vroooom
- tiborsaas 7y agoMissed opportunity to weave "joining forces" in the title somehow :)
- ed_blackburn 7y agoHow long before the Salesforce acquisition now?
- krn 7y agoOver time I learned to prefer European B2B tech companies, because they strive to be profitable from the beginning, take less VC money, are more stable, predictable, cost-conscious, engineering-focused, and, therefore, often much less likely to be acquired: Adyen, MessageBird, KeyCDN, OVH, Hetzner, INWX, Mailbox. It's a bit sad to take Mailjet out of this list, even if it's considered a success for the company.
- alexis_fr 7y agoActually, this is a very helpful feedback for any company. And funnily enough, would Europe’s difficulty in creating a funding ecosystem be the key point that ...reinforces their startups?
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- krn 7y agoIn Europe, there is still a lot of pride in completely owning your company, and not having any plans to sell it to anyone, except maybe IPO. In many cases, the original founders are still running their tech companies 20 years later. It could almost be said, that a "serial tech entrepreneur" is not a thing in such a conservative society, because even entrepreneurs prefer certainty and stability in their lives over high risks / high returns, and the fear of failure is much stronger than in the US.
- semiotagonal 7y agoI've never understood why anyone would trust a serial entrepreneur. If a business is great, why would they exit? If it's not, why are they esteemed?
- travelton 7y agoI think this is a great acquisition for Mailgun. IMO, the biggest pain point for implementing Mailgun is that backend developers don't want to manage email templates, deal with email client compatibility, or manage A/B testing within a backend codebase. This acquisition should fix that disconnect by allowing the marketing team to perform these tasks via the Mailgun control panel.
- 1123581321 7y agoI hope this means the MJML project was part of the acquisition reason (it underlies their builder) and won’t see its support reduce.
- mailjetUS 7y agoMJML will definitely continue to be prioritized at both Mailjet and Mailgun as it's a big part of our product and brand. For those who don't know MJML: https://mjml.io https://mjml.io
- 1123581321 7y agoGreat news. Thank you!
- Animats 7y agoCan all MJML mail be routed to the "bulk" folder?
- knownhoot 7y ago+1 will be curious and anxious to hear what happens to MJML
- jrodom 7y agoWe're really excited about MJML. Creating messages that render properly on all email clients is challenging and MJML solves the problem in a very developer friendly way. You should expect MJML and the Passport editor to be integrated into Mailgun in the near future!
- 1123581321 7y agoThank you, Josh!
- patrickserrano 7y agoGlad to hear it Josh, can't wait!
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- jadbox 7y agoFair warning, just this week Mailgun locked my account due to random "spam" detection. We only send unique hand created emails and have only sent to about 200 unique users over the last few months. Because our account is locked, our customers cannot contact us at all and we can't reach out to them. It's been 3 days and our support messages have gone unanswered. Hopefully this gets cleared up real soon. I kind of feel like the process might be pushing people to upgrade to premium phone support to regain access to their business, but maybe I'm being pessimistic.
- meritt 7y ago> our customers cannot contact us at all I thought mailgun was for delivering emails? How/why are they your MX?
- nullspace 7y agoThey are actually one of the few services that u can use for programmatically receiving emails. When it works, it just works - but unfortunately the spam thing bit us as well. Fortunately we were able to get it resolved quickly
- thrownblown 7y agoI use MG for automated email intake too, but I also use sparkpost as a backup email intake.
- adamfeldman 7y agoHow do you switch from the primary to the backup?
- thrownblown 7y agofor our purpose i have two distinct email domains and fwd to both addresses and process which ever hits my servers first.
- _Codemonkeyism 7y agoI feel with all the people who left the horrible Mailgun (we've used them for 5 years), switched to Mailjet (we luckily didn't) and are back with Mailgun now.
- thefounder 7y agoBoth services are trash. Maillgun in particular holds emails even for days and reports them as sent. Apparently it's a "security" feature.
- LeonM 7y agoIf you bring a letter to to post office, you have sent it, but that does not mean it is delivered. It takes the postal service some time before the letter is eventually delivered. during that time the letter is sent, but not delivered. Email works exactly like paper mail. If there is a security related issue on the receiver side (like an expired certificate), the sender (Mailgun) may hold the email and retry a couple of times. Eventually the issue may get resolved and the email will be delivered, or the sender may choose to deliver the email without encryption (unless MTA-STS is used, of course). During this whole process the email is sent, but not delivered. I understand that the status 'sent' may be confusing to you, but calling the companies 'trash' just because the email protocol from 1982 does not uphold your standards is a bit harsh.
- denton-scratch 7y agoI dislike automated commercial email. To be more accurate, I loathe and despise it, and have done since I first received a commercial email spam, in the early 1990s. The very name "Mailgun" sounds to me no different from "Spam cannon". Substitute "chimp" if you want; it doesn't make it better for me.
- dewey 7y agoSo company employees should send you handcrafted "Please confirm your email address by clicking this link" transaction emails?
- denton-scratch 7y agoCompanies should stop asking for my email address at all, ever. I use email to talk to friends and relatives. I am not interested in commercial email. I don't like my town being decorated with advertisements, either. My inbox is full of rubbish ads - it overwhelms the stuff I care about, and makes my life sadder.
- dewey 7y agoAre you confusing marketing emails with transactional emails? What about order confirmations? Password reset emails?
- denton-scratch 7y agoPerhaps I'm confusing one kind of marketing spam with another kind of marketing spam. It all makes me feel ill, to the very depths of my Soul. "Order confirmations": not necessary. I should have a choice whether I use my email address to confirm an order. "Transactional": I don't know what that means (I keep finding that term being used). I think it means that the email is being used as part of an agreed deal. Fine: if I've agreed to my email being used as part of a deal, no prob. Otherwise, leave me alone. "Order confirmations": if I need my order confirmed, then I can opt for that, and give you my email. But in general, orders don't need confirming - you either order, or you don't. "Password reset": My passwords are my business. I use a password manager. Please don't assume I'm a password slob. Passwords suck; they are an insane way to authenticate, they just don't work. So reset emails are not a good use-case for unsolicited email. Next?
- shortformblog 7y agoI don’t really use Mailjet for now, but admire their work and think MJML is one of the biggest innovations we’ve seen in the email space in quite some time. Hoping that keeps up in the coming years under Mailgun.
- runnr_az 7y agoI guess it's the right time to announce my company, Mailsub?
- annoyingnoob 7y agoWhy do all of these mail services look like spam engines? I know several companies that seems to shop for these mail services. Someone spams me though a service like this, I complain, next week I'm getting email from the same sender but through a different spam service. You email/spam service providers need to create a clearing house for bad customers, because bad actors just move around and change names and always find a new home to land in.
- howard941 7y agoI don't know about the acquiree but as a mail admin I've found Mailgun to be unresponsive to abuse emails and an unrepentant spammer. Block them and move on.
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- funnywalrus 7y agoThis space is really starting to get really competitive
- tolstoshev 7y agoThis makes no sense - guns function completely differently from jets. What were they thinking?
- rtkwe 7y agoIt's like the A-10 Warthog, a jet built around a gun.
- dwx360 7y agoWe are in the govtech sector and decided for mailjet because of european and national data privacy regulation for governments ("DSGVO", data residency, etc). Does anyone of you know how the merger will affect the companies DSGVO promise or if will mailjet stay a company under european/french law?