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> I find NordVPN's marketing reprehensible. A claim that really, really bothered me was something along the lines of "use us and no one will be able to read yo

> I find NordVPN's marketing reprehensible. A claim that really, really bothered me was something along the lines of "use us and no one will be able to read your email!" Every mainstream email provider (Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Apple) now require HTTPS for emails. No one was ever going to be able to read your emails.

nprateem 7y ago
Apparently not [1] (paywall) / [2] (Google referrer to avoid paywall). There's a scam where email invoices are modified: > Somewhere along the line the email was intercepted and altered. I didn’t know then, but I know now, that I should have transferred a small amount first to see if it went through, or just phoned the builder to check his details [1] https://www.ft.com/content/edc2061a-78b2-11e9-be7d-6d846537acab https://www.ft.com/content/edc2061a-78b2-11e9-be7d-6d846537a... [2] https://lmgtfy.com/?q=I+was+duped+out+of+%C2%A34%2C300+in+an+online+scam+ft.com&s=g https://lmgtfy.com/?q=I+was+duped+out+of+%C2%A34%2C300+in+an...
slivanes 7y ago
I want to read my own email.
rosybox 7y ago
> No one was ever going to be able to read your emails. Except for Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, and Apple of course, and whoever they have to answer to depending on where you live.
- UncleMeat 7y ago
  A VPN won't change that
apecat 7y ago
I normally don’t mind YouTube ads all that much, and I don’t see them on desktop browsers anyway. However, I was bombarded with ads for NordVPN and their crap made me so angry it pretty much sold me a paid YouTube membership. Hard to relax with some totally not weird ASMR when my blood pressure is through the roof because some chirpy ad agency dude wants to show me how much a VPN is like an umbrella or whatever.
- gsich 7y ago
  No adblock?
  - apecat 7y ago
    Yes, on desktop. Harder to achieve with the mobile app. And as it happens, I don't use a desktop OS to play stuff that helps me fall asleep.
    - nullandvoid 7y ago
      Just use firefox on mobile it has extension support
      - apecat 7y ago
        Nah https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios
        nullandvoid 7y ago
        Ouch a win for android here then
- mvexel 7y ago
  > However, I was bombarded with ads for NordVPN and their crap made me so angry it pretty much sold me a paid YouTube membership. For me it was those incessant Grammarly ads. A service, by the way, that has its own serious security and privacy concerns[0]. (I feel like YouTube Premium ($18/mo for up to 6 people) is a better deal than Spotify Premium ($15/mo for up to 6 people) for a household like mine where we listen to a lot of music and use YouTube a lot. I don't know how YouTube compares to Spotify when it comes to music selection however.) [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16315684 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16315684
  - apecat 7y ago
tehomehckw 7y ago
> No one was ever going to be able to read your emails As long as no one practiced a trivial mitm attack on your network and that you have a browser that does not try http first when you type in your webmail.com or that no one rubber duckied a custom CA certificate in your browser ...

nprateem 7y ago

Apparently not [1] (paywall) / [2] (Google referrer to avoid paywall). There's a scam where email invoices are modified: > Somewhere along the line the email was intercepted and altered. I didn’t know then, but I know now, that I should have transferred a small amount first to see if it went through, or just phoned the builder to check his details [1] https://www.ft.com/content/edc2061a-78b2-11e9-be7d-6d846537acab https://www.ft.com/content/edc2061a-78b2-11e9-be7d-6d846537a... [2] https://lmgtfy.com/?q=I+was+duped+out+of+%C2%A34%2C300+in+an+online+scam+ft.com&s=g https://lmgtfy.com/?q=I+was+duped+out+of+%C2%A34%2C300+in+an...

slivanes 7y ago

I want to read my own email.

rosybox 7y ago

> No one was ever going to be able to read your emails. Except for Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, and Apple of course, and whoever they have to answer to depending on where you live.

UncleMeat 7y ago
A VPN won't change that

apecat 7y ago

I normally don’t mind YouTube ads all that much, and I don’t see them on desktop browsers anyway. However, I was bombarded with ads for NordVPN and their crap made me so angry it pretty much sold me a paid YouTube membership. Hard to relax with some totally not weird ASMR when my blood pressure is through the roof because some chirpy ad agency dude wants to show me how much a VPN is like an umbrella or whatever.

gsich 7y ago
No adblock?
- apecat 7y ago
  Yes, on desktop. Harder to achieve with the mobile app. And as it happens, I don't use a desktop OS to play stuff that helps me fall asleep.
  - nullandvoid 7y ago
    Just use firefox on mobile it has extension support
    - apecat 7y ago
      Nah https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios
      - nullandvoid 7y ago
        Ouch a win for android here then
mvexel 7y ago
> However, I was bombarded with ads for NordVPN and their crap made me so angry it pretty much sold me a paid YouTube membership. For me it was those incessant Grammarly ads. A service, by the way, that has its own serious security and privacy concerns[0]. (I feel like YouTube Premium ($18/mo for up to 6 people) is a better deal than Spotify Premium ($15/mo for up to 6 people) for a household like mine where we listen to a lot of music and use YouTube a lot. I don't know how YouTube compares to Spotify when it comes to music selection however.) [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16315684 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16315684
- apecat 7y ago

tehomehckw 7y ago

> No one was ever going to be able to read your emails As long as no one practiced a trivial mitm attack on your network and that you have a browser that does not try http first when you type in your webmail.com or that no one rubber duckied a custom CA certificate in your browser ...