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> At the same time, everybody seems to accept that the chance of getting cancer in your lifetime has risen to about one in three for men and one in five for wom

> At the same time, everybody seems to accept that the chance of getting cancer in your lifetime has risen to about one in three for men and one in five for women. And nobody knows why. However everybody who points to a possible answer is shot down without much investigation. Sad, really. Plentiful nutrition which has led to 90% of the population of the USA being overweight, obese, or overfat is another potential culprit. Women suffering from anorexia developed fewer tumors. Similar experiments on lab animals in a controlled setting have the same result. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11246846 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11246846 I believe there are other changing risk factors in behavior as well, for instance women who have never had a child are more likely to develop breast cancer and fertility rates have dropped dramatically over the last 100 years. Cell phones have only been widely deployed in the last two decades, and I don’t think those trends in cancer rates you’re referencing correlate very well to cellular deployment. I’d still be curious to see more research happening in the field of millimeter waves, personally I don’t see this technology as very useful right now either compared to traditional cellular due to its lack of penetration.

GhettoMaestro 7y ago
> Plentiful nutrition which has led to 90% of the population of the USA being overweight, obese, or overfat is another potential culprit. Yeah I’m gonna need some data to believe that one. 90% obese / overweight? I’m calling bullshit.
- dekhn 7y ago
  Yes, it's more like 35-40%.
  - effie 7y ago
    In 2014, 73% of men, 67% of women. https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity#prevalence https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statisti...
    - dekhn 7y ago
      I'm going off this page: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db288.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db288.pdf Please note the table you showed the 73% is combination of "overweight" and "obese" while the row that shows obese is the same number as my citation.
      - dekhn 7y ago
        I don't understand why people are downvoting me when I'm literally quoting the stats from the agency that defines this. If you're downvoting, can you at least reply to provide some technical signal so I can update my knowledge? EDIT: I misread the original message and thought it was referring to just obesity, not obesity/overweight.
        kurtisc 7y ago
        The original post included 'overweight'
- GhostVII 7y ago
  Looks like it's closer to 70% [0], for adults at least. [0] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm
- javagram 7y ago
  https://torontosun.com/2017/07/25/90-of-us-men-are-overfat-are-you/wcm/08d58bf8-3a86-46c4-bd71-2b90eef3aba8 https://torontosun.com/2017/07/25/90-of-us-men-are-overfat-a... Edit: I should have said adults in the parent post though, this statistic doesn’t apply to kids.
djsumdog 7y ago
It's anecdotal, but a friend of mine with cancer switched to a keto diet and he had one tumor shrink, to the point where his doctor said they could (and should) now operate on it. The large increase in sugar and starch in our diet does contribute to fast growing cancer cells and there are studies that link being overweight/obesity with cancer. We weren't this fat decades ago. Some may blame more office work, but the biggest factor is the amount of sugar/carbs in our diets. It's grown tremendously and yet no one seems to take it seriously, discrediting things like Adkins/Keto as "fad diets" when they were closer/more consistent with American and Western European diets for several decades.
- flatline 7y ago
  I know a few people who have lost a lot of weight on Atkins/keto. I think they are successful diets because they provide bright-line rules for people to follow, but they are also extreme and potentially dangerous. None of them could maintain those diets long-term because they developed things like kidney pain. Caloric restriction, eating a good balance of fat/carbs/protein, laying off saturated fats, sugar, and booze, will fix 95% of people's dietary problems, but for people with weight/eating issues the middle ground is often just too difficult a path to tread.
  - djsumdog 7y ago
    > kidney pain I've had trouble finding good studies on this. I don't think it's true. I've been on pretty hard keto for over two years at a time. I know other friends who have and have never heard of kidney trouble. You occasionally have a day or two where you eat out with friends or have some fried chicken every month, and initially there is a period where you feel sick for a week as your body withdraws from sugar, but other than that I've never had kidney issues and my blood work has always come back fine. With Adkins you do start reintroducing some carbs eventually, but you still keep it under a limit, and go back down if you start getting unhealthy.
    - SuoDuanDao 7y ago
      Anecdotally: my father did have kidney issues when he went Keto, but that's because he had too high a proportion of his calories from protein. He switched to more leaves and fats and that seems to have cleared up.

GhettoMaestro 7y ago

> Plentiful nutrition which has led to 90% of the population of the USA being overweight, obese, or overfat is another potential culprit. Yeah I’m gonna need some data to believe that one. 90% obese / overweight? I’m calling bullshit.

dekhn 7y ago
Yes, it's more like 35-40%.
- effie 7y ago
  In 2014, 73% of men, 67% of women. https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity#prevalence https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statisti...
  - dekhn 7y ago
    I'm going off this page: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db288.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db288.pdf Please note the table you showed the 73% is combination of "overweight" and "obese" while the row that shows obese is the same number as my citation.
    - dekhn 7y ago
      I don't understand why people are downvoting me when I'm literally quoting the stats from the agency that defines this. If you're downvoting, can you at least reply to provide some technical signal so I can update my knowledge? EDIT: I misread the original message and thought it was referring to just obesity, not obesity/overweight.
      - kurtisc 7y ago
        The original post included 'overweight'
GhostVII 7y ago
Looks like it's closer to 70% [0], for adults at least. [0] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm
javagram 7y ago
https://torontosun.com/2017/07/25/90-of-us-men-are-overfat-are-you/wcm/08d58bf8-3a86-46c4-bd71-2b90eef3aba8 https://torontosun.com/2017/07/25/90-of-us-men-are-overfat-a... Edit: I should have said adults in the parent post though, this statistic doesn’t apply to kids.

djsumdog 7y ago

It's anecdotal, but a friend of mine with cancer switched to a keto diet and he had one tumor shrink, to the point where his doctor said they could (and should) now operate on it. The large increase in sugar and starch in our diet does contribute to fast growing cancer cells and there are studies that link being overweight/obesity with cancer. We weren't this fat decades ago. Some may blame more office work, but the biggest factor is the amount of sugar/carbs in our diets. It's grown tremendously and yet no one seems to take it seriously, discrediting things like Adkins/Keto as "fad diets" when they were closer/more consistent with American and Western European diets for several decades.

flatline 7y ago
I know a few people who have lost a lot of weight on Atkins/keto. I think they are successful diets because they provide bright-line rules for people to follow, but they are also extreme and potentially dangerous. None of them could maintain those diets long-term because they developed things like kidney pain. Caloric restriction, eating a good balance of fat/carbs/protein, laying off saturated fats, sugar, and booze, will fix 95% of people's dietary problems, but for people with weight/eating issues the middle ground is often just too difficult a path to tread.
- djsumdog 7y ago
  > kidney pain I've had trouble finding good studies on this. I don't think it's true. I've been on pretty hard keto for over two years at a time. I know other friends who have and have never heard of kidney trouble. You occasionally have a day or two where you eat out with friends or have some fried chicken every month, and initially there is a period where you feel sick for a week as your body withdraws from sugar, but other than that I've never had kidney issues and my blood work has always come back fine. With Adkins you do start reintroducing some carbs eventually, but you still keep it under a limit, and go back down if you start getting unhealthy.
  - SuoDuanDao 7y ago
    Anecdotally: my father did have kidney issues when he went Keto, but that's because he had too high a proportion of his calories from protein. He switched to more leaves and fats and that seems to have cleared up.