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System76[0] makes some nice laptops (I have an Oryx Pro and i like it a lot), and there's the Lenovo X1 Extreme[1]. [0]: https://system76.com/laptops https://s

System76[0] makes some nice laptops (I have an Oryx Pro and i like it a lot), and there's the Lenovo X1 Extreme[1]. [0]: https://system76.com/laptops https://system76.com/laptops [1]: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/X1-Extreme-Gen-2/p/22TP2TXX1E2 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/X1-...

SmirkingRevenge 7y ago
How is the keyboard on your system76? I've been leaning towards System76 for my next laptop, but its hard to pull the trigger without testing the keyboard. I really need cushier and longer travel keys these days or I get really bad muscle fatigue in my arms and wrists, while working on a laptop keyboard. My 2014 MBP causes me issues only after an hour or two. And their newer keyboards... well, I'm just not even going to go there. The old ibm/lenovo thinkpad keyboards (before chick-lets) were the best. Lenovo is an option too, but I'd rather support a Linux oriented company with Linux-first laptops (I also find it a hard pill to swallow to ever buy a Lenovo again, after all the spyware shenanigans).
- hardwaresofton 7y ago
  I use a mechanical keyboard so I'm not the person to ask... I did find one review on youtube[0] pretty helpful. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEEUuSKL0BQ&feature=youtu.be&t=280 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEEUuSKL0BQ&feature=youtu.be...
- rwha 7y ago
  I have an Oryx Pro and the keypad is good as far as your two requirements. The one thing I had to get used to is that the keys have no curvature (no gradient or tapering around the edges and the tops have zero convexity). My fingertips are either a bit more calloused now from moving between keys or my fingers have worn away the keys' sharp edges. Or a little of both. Oh and if you do get one, and if you think it would be fun to have your keyboard light up certain sections with certain colors for certain alert conditions... it gets old real quick.
FunnyLookinHat 7y ago
My employer provided me an X1 Extreme. Overall it's a great laptop - only real complaint is that it includes a dedicated GPU and I'd rather have integrated graphics. Sure, you can boot with just the Intel GPU with PopOS - but that comes with certain trade-offs like not being able to use the HDMI port. Keyboard is great. Trackpoint is great. Trackpad is OK. Screen is great (I have the 4k and just run it at 1080p to simplify my life) - but the colors and brightness are amazing. Performance is great.

SmirkingRevenge 7y ago

How is the keyboard on your system76? I've been leaning towards System76 for my next laptop, but its hard to pull the trigger without testing the keyboard. I really need cushier and longer travel keys these days or I get really bad muscle fatigue in my arms and wrists, while working on a laptop keyboard. My 2014 MBP causes me issues only after an hour or two. And their newer keyboards... well, I'm just not even going to go there. The old ibm/lenovo thinkpad keyboards (before chick-lets) were the best. Lenovo is an option too, but I'd rather support a Linux oriented company with Linux-first laptops (I also find it a hard pill to swallow to ever buy a Lenovo again, after all the spyware shenanigans).

hardwaresofton 7y ago
I use a mechanical keyboard so I'm not the person to ask... I did find one review on youtube[0] pretty helpful. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEEUuSKL0BQ&feature=youtu.be&t=280 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEEUuSKL0BQ&feature=youtu.be...
rwha 7y ago
I have an Oryx Pro and the keypad is good as far as your two requirements. The one thing I had to get used to is that the keys have no curvature (no gradient or tapering around the edges and the tops have zero convexity). My fingertips are either a bit more calloused now from moving between keys or my fingers have worn away the keys' sharp edges. Or a little of both. Oh and if you do get one, and if you think it would be fun to have your keyboard light up certain sections with certain colors for certain alert conditions... it gets old real quick.

FunnyLookinHat 7y ago

My employer provided me an X1 Extreme. Overall it's a great laptop - only real complaint is that it includes a dedicated GPU and I'd rather have integrated graphics. Sure, you can boot with just the Intel GPU with PopOS - but that comes with certain trade-offs like not being able to use the HDMI port. Keyboard is great. Trackpoint is great. Trackpad is OK. Screen is great (I have the 4k and just run it at 1080p to simplify my life) - but the colors and brightness are amazing. Performance is great.