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4chan raids are pretty passé. When was the last high-profile activity associated with /pol/, /b/, or Anonymous? Hasn't the media turned to vilifying 8chan? Tha

by branon 7y ago

4chan raids are pretty passé. When was the last high-profile activity associated with /pol/, /b/, or Anonymous? Hasn't the media turned to vilifying 8chan? That's double the chan, right, so it must be twice as bad. Also, link is 503'd. Must've been a raid.

enlyth 7y ago
I agree, 4chan doesn't seem to be as active or popular anymore. Last time I checked /b/ was nothing like it used to be, it's full of pornography these days, and /pol/ is a far right echo chamber (I swear I remember years and years ago it used to be more left leaning? Maybe I'm wrong though, never visited too often).
- empath75 7y ago
  they were more anarchic and had a lot of quote-unquote "ironic" fascism for lulz, but they were targeted by for real nazis and fascists as a recruitment ground the ironic hatefulness became real hatefulness and drove away anyone that wasn't a legit nazi.
  - api 7y ago
    The tale I heard was that 4chan raided Stormfront and then the latter turned around and invaded 4chan and made it into Stormfront for nerds, but I have no clue if that story is true.
  - Mirioron 7y ago
    That's only really true about /pol/ though. Go look at the other boards, eg /b/ and you'll see topics discussed that incenses those same fascists.
- izzydata 7y ago
  It's always been an incomprehensible blob of every possible opinion at once. Most of the things that are said are not even real opinions people hold. Things are said just to see what kinds of responses it gets. I don't believe it makes sense to try and classify the site as of any political side.
  - MisterTea 7y ago
    I'm sure a lot of the vitriol on 4chan is a combination of boredom and catharsis. I've done it but it got old really fast.
  - ggggtez 7y ago
    How quickly people forget about GamerGate and when /pol/ had to be shutdown because of all the raids. That was literally the cause of 8chan's creation. You do realize that 4chan memes were referenced at Christchurch? It's great to be an optimist and assume that everyone is secretly just kidding, but clearly not everyone got the memo. There are really crazy people there who take these calls to action deadly serious.
    - izzydata 7y ago
      I didn't imply that everyone is kidding. Only that all opinions are going to be represented whether that person believes it or not. One person does not speak for everyone. They only speak for themselves. People commit atrocities in the name of religions and we don't seem to blame the entire organization for a single extremist.
      - phjesusthatguy3 7y ago
        1
    - A2017U1 7y ago
      > Taxi Driver formed part of the delusional fantasy of John Hinckley Jr.[26] that triggered his attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan in 1981, an act for which he was found not guilty by reason of insanity Its great to be an optimist and think movies don't cause harm, clearly not everyone got the memo, there's some really crazy people out there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_Driver#John_Hinckley_Jr https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_Driver#John_Hinckley_Jr.
      - phjesusthatguy3 7y ago
- michannne 7y ago
  /pol/ has almost always been an echo chamber of whatever opinion was deemed fringe from what I remember. I seriously doubt anyone cared about Ron Paul winning the election other than the fact that they wanted to see what he would actually do in office, as it is with Trump right now - the general stance is Trump is horrible, not because of his policies, but because of the low impact of his policies compared to what anons had in mind would have been enacted. It still has an air of anarchy/anarcho-capitalism as it always had, the tone has just shifted more towards the anarchism element. And as it stands now, 4chan is still the most popular imageboard, which is largely why /pol/ is a blob of opinions where the only thing anyone can agree on is that they hate each other.
  - wayoutthere 7y ago
    I wouldn't say /pol/ is as anarchist as it is simply nihilistic. The common thread among all the various opinions shared on 4chan throughout its existence is that nothing matters and it's all just a game.
  - cr0sh 7y ago
    > the general stance is Trump is horrible, not because of his policies, but because of the low impact of his policies Low impact? What were they hoping for, global thermonuclear war? US Civil War 2? If wayoutthere's post is to be taken as correct, and they actually are nihilistic and think this is all "a game" - then they should be considered a very dangerous "group" of people. Seemingly advocating for regional or planetary existential threats - and coming close to implementing such actions (and some could argue that to an extent they have been successful - just maybe not as successful as they wanted?) - well, that is insanity. And it shouldn't be tolerated or encouraged. The world isn't perfect. Our global and regional societies aren't perfect. We're human - nothing we do is perfect. All we can do is try to do better next time. The answer to this imperfection is not to destroy everything. I find it sickening that there are large groups of people who not only think this way, but have found each other, and have organized to try to make their sick dreams come true.
    - trevyn 7y ago
      An important function of free speech is that it is a release valve and warning system for widespread discontent. If highly charged opinions start forming themselves into organized groups, it’s a hint that something needs to change, structurally. (And not repression of that opinion, that’s only blindfolding yourself and allowing the problem to grow until the release is more violent.)
- hnaccy 7y ago
  Traffic has only gone up. /b/ is dead and /v/,/vg/,/pol/ are all faster now. http://4stats.io http://4stats.io
  - easymodex 7y ago
    Hah, cool site, thanks for sharing. I love how /biz/ posts per day chart follows bitcoin price over past few years.
- lasagnaeater 7y ago
  > /pol/ is a far right echo chamber (I swear I remember years and years ago it used to be more left leaning? I noticed a lot of conspiracy or somewhat alternative sites went very right wing several years back. I used to love visiting sites like AboveTopSecret for entertainment value as it used to have a lot of in depth threads about ayys, for example. Nowadays it's a right wing political board.
- Funes- 7y ago
  >4chan doesn't seem to be as active or popular anymore That's what you get with a heavily-centralized Internet: Everyone and their dog consumes all their media and spends most of their day on the same handful of platforms--not that spending it on 4chan, of all places, would be better, but you know what I mean.
jdhn 7y ago
The NPC meme originated on /pol/
ggggtez 7y ago
>what's the last high-profile activity associated with /pol/ How about March 2019 [1]? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings

by branon 7y ago

enlyth 7y ago

I agree, 4chan doesn't seem to be as active or popular anymore. Last time I checked /b/ was nothing like it used to be, it's full of pornography these days, and /pol/ is a far right echo chamber (I swear I remember years and years ago it used to be more left leaning? Maybe I'm wrong though, never visited too often).

empath75 7y ago
they were more anarchic and had a lot of quote-unquote "ironic" fascism for lulz, but they were targeted by for real nazis and fascists as a recruitment ground the ironic hatefulness became real hatefulness and drove away anyone that wasn't a legit nazi.
- api 7y ago
  The tale I heard was that 4chan raided Stormfront and then the latter turned around and invaded 4chan and made it into Stormfront for nerds, but I have no clue if that story is true.
- Mirioron 7y ago
  That's only really true about /pol/ though. Go look at the other boards, eg /b/ and you'll see topics discussed that incenses those same fascists.
izzydata 7y ago
It's always been an incomprehensible blob of every possible opinion at once. Most of the things that are said are not even real opinions people hold. Things are said just to see what kinds of responses it gets. I don't believe it makes sense to try and classify the site as of any political side.
- MisterTea 7y ago
  I'm sure a lot of the vitriol on 4chan is a combination of boredom and catharsis. I've done it but it got old really fast.
- ggggtez 7y ago
  How quickly people forget about GamerGate and when /pol/ had to be shutdown because of all the raids. That was literally the cause of 8chan's creation. You do realize that 4chan memes were referenced at Christchurch? It's great to be an optimist and assume that everyone is secretly just kidding, but clearly not everyone got the memo. There are really crazy people there who take these calls to action deadly serious.
  - izzydata 7y ago
    I didn't imply that everyone is kidding. Only that all opinions are going to be represented whether that person believes it or not. One person does not speak for everyone. They only speak for themselves. People commit atrocities in the name of religions and we don't seem to blame the entire organization for a single extremist.
    - phjesusthatguy3 7y ago
      1
  - A2017U1 7y ago
    > Taxi Driver formed part of the delusional fantasy of John Hinckley Jr.[26] that triggered his attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan in 1981, an act for which he was found not guilty by reason of insanity Its great to be an optimist and think movies don't cause harm, clearly not everyone got the memo, there's some really crazy people out there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_Driver#John_Hinckley_Jr https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_Driver#John_Hinckley_Jr.
    - phjesusthatguy3 7y ago
michannne 7y ago
/pol/ has almost always been an echo chamber of whatever opinion was deemed fringe from what I remember. I seriously doubt anyone cared about Ron Paul winning the election other than the fact that they wanted to see what he would actually do in office, as it is with Trump right now - the general stance is Trump is horrible, not because of his policies, but because of the low impact of his policies compared to what anons had in mind would have been enacted. It still has an air of anarchy/anarcho-capitalism as it always had, the tone has just shifted more towards the anarchism element. And as it stands now, 4chan is still the most popular imageboard, which is largely why /pol/ is a blob of opinions where the only thing anyone can agree on is that they hate each other.
- wayoutthere 7y ago
  I wouldn't say /pol/ is as anarchist as it is simply nihilistic. The common thread among all the various opinions shared on 4chan throughout its existence is that nothing matters and it's all just a game.
- cr0sh 7y ago
  > the general stance is Trump is horrible, not because of his policies, but because of the low impact of his policies Low impact? What were they hoping for, global thermonuclear war? US Civil War 2? If wayoutthere's post is to be taken as correct, and they actually are nihilistic and think this is all "a game" - then they should be considered a very dangerous "group" of people. Seemingly advocating for regional or planetary existential threats - and coming close to implementing such actions (and some could argue that to an extent they have been successful - just maybe not as successful as they wanted?) - well, that is insanity. And it shouldn't be tolerated or encouraged. The world isn't perfect. Our global and regional societies aren't perfect. We're human - nothing we do is perfect. All we can do is try to do better next time. The answer to this imperfection is not to destroy everything. I find it sickening that there are large groups of people who not only think this way, but have found each other, and have organized to try to make their sick dreams come true.
  - trevyn 7y ago
    An important function of free speech is that it is a release valve and warning system for widespread discontent. If highly charged opinions start forming themselves into organized groups, it’s a hint that something needs to change, structurally. (And not repression of that opinion, that’s only blindfolding yourself and allowing the problem to grow until the release is more violent.)
hnaccy 7y ago
Traffic has only gone up. /b/ is dead and /v/,/vg/,/pol/ are all faster now. http://4stats.io http://4stats.io
- easymodex 7y ago
  Hah, cool site, thanks for sharing. I love how /biz/ posts per day chart follows bitcoin price over past few years.
lasagnaeater 7y ago
> /pol/ is a far right echo chamber (I swear I remember years and years ago it used to be more left leaning? I noticed a lot of conspiracy or somewhat alternative sites went very right wing several years back. I used to love visiting sites like AboveTopSecret for entertainment value as it used to have a lot of in depth threads about ayys, for example. Nowadays it's a right wing political board.
Funes- 7y ago
>4chan doesn't seem to be as active or popular anymore That's what you get with a heavily-centralized Internet: Everyone and their dog consumes all their media and spends most of their day on the same handful of platforms--not that spending it on 4chan, of all places, would be better, but you know what I mean.

jdhn 7y ago

The NPC meme originated on /pol/

ggggtez 7y ago

>what's the last high-profile activity associated with /pol/ How about March 2019 [1]? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings