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What's the point of Yahoo at all anymore? Finance? I am at a loss of what it is they still even do.

by ulfw 7y ago

troxwalt 7y ago
Run a pretty damn good implementation of Fantasy Sports.
Harimwakairi 7y ago
They target and serve ads. Yahoo is still a key piece of Verizon's strategy for making money from internet advertising. Verizon, as a wireless carrier, knows where you are most of the time, and the various internet properties of the Verizon Media Group (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Media https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Media) know a lot about what you do online.
guywithabike 7y ago
Not sure about how the rest of the company does, but in the iOS App Store, the Gmail app has 147K reviews and Yahoo Mail has 2.1M reviews. I think that's a decent proxy to tell us that Yahoo Mail is _hugely_ popular still.
- tomcooks 7y ago
  Reviews costing a dime a dozen i don't really think it's a valuable indicator of success, use or quality.
  - 1123581321 7y ago
    Fake App Store reviews cost $0.50-2.00 each, roughly. And they are very difficult to hide at that scale.
    - drusepth 7y ago
      Obviously it depends on where you purchase your review service so it's hard to give definitive prices, but I'm looking at a listing offering 1-2K AS review bundles for $150-$200, which averages between 10 and 15 cents. No idea on the quality, but IMO it doesn't look like fake reviews often try to hide themselves.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Note that app developers can choose to "reset" their reviews whenever they publish a new release, so those numbers might not be representative of the number of users each has.
  - machello13 7y ago
    The number of reviews can also depend heavily on whether and how often the app asks a user to review it.
- zerocrates 7y ago
  Do you need an app from the store for either of those things on iOS? Seems like something the built-in mail would handle fine (and in all probability, better).
- Muuuchem 7y ago
  Thats weird because I have a Yahoo account that I manage through gmail... I am not sure how that works haha.
forgot-my-pw 7y ago
Apparently Yahoo is still big in some parts of Asia, like in Japan for example. As for the rest of the world, I don't see the point of Yahoo anymore.
- kome 7y ago
  Yahoo Japan has nothing to do with the American Yahoo tho... It looks beautiful btw: https://www.yahoo.co.jp/ https://www.yahoo.co.jp/ - still using the old look. "In 2017, Verizon Communications purchased the core internet business of America-based Yahoo!, and merged them into Oath, Inc. Yahoo! Japan was not affected. It continued as a joint venture between Softbank and what remained of Yahoo! Inc., renamed Altaba." more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Japan
  - Bartweiss 7y ago
    Notably, prior to its acquisition Yahoo! (America) had a 35% stake in Yahoo! Japan along with 24% of Alibaba. Even while Yahoo! was independent and turning a profit, it was valued as an albatross dragging down Yahoo! Japan's prospects to the tune of about negative $4 billion. People were suggesting that a holding company should be broken out to manage all three entities without doing any business of its own, so that Yahoo's terrible prospects couldn't cut into the value of the other two. (Since an independent business can't be worse than worthless to shareholders, it would have immediately switched to a positive valuation.) Instead, the market skipped a step, divesting the functional businesses to enable a positive-value acquisition of the remains. What's fascinating is that Yahoo! Japan does something very similar to Yahoo! America, but one of the two profitable businesses was valuable while the other was understood to be doomed. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2014-04-17/how-can-yahoo-be-worth-less-than-zero https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2014-04-17/how-ca...
esfandia 7y ago
My Yahoo! is still useful. That's my customized web portal (I know, antiquated word), where I collect and access my RSS feeds. I also use Yahoo Mail and get my sports updates from Yahoo Sports.

What's the point of Yahoo at all anymore? Finance? I am at a loss of what it is they still even do.

by ulfw 7y ago

What's the point of Yahoo at all anymore? Finance? I am at a loss of what it is they still even do.

troxwalt 7y ago

Run a pretty damn good implementation of Fantasy Sports.

Harimwakairi 7y ago

They target and serve ads. Yahoo is still a key piece of Verizon's strategy for making money from internet advertising. Verizon, as a wireless carrier, knows where you are most of the time, and the various internet properties of the Verizon Media Group (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Media https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Media) know a lot about what you do online.

guywithabike 7y ago

Not sure about how the rest of the company does, but in the iOS App Store, the Gmail app has 147K reviews and Yahoo Mail has 2.1M reviews. I think that's a decent proxy to tell us that Yahoo Mail is _hugely_ popular still.

tomcooks 7y ago
Reviews costing a dime a dozen i don't really think it's a valuable indicator of success, use or quality.
- 1123581321 7y ago
  Fake App Store reviews cost $0.50-2.00 each, roughly. And they are very difficult to hide at that scale.
  - drusepth 7y ago
    Obviously it depends on where you purchase your review service so it's hard to give definitive prices, but I'm looking at a listing offering 1-2K AS review bundles for $150-$200, which averages between 10 and 15 cents. No idea on the quality, but IMO it doesn't look like fake reviews often try to hide themselves.
saagarjha 7y ago
Note that app developers can choose to "reset" their reviews whenever they publish a new release, so those numbers might not be representative of the number of users each has.
- machello13 7y ago
  The number of reviews can also depend heavily on whether and how often the app asks a user to review it.
zerocrates 7y ago
Do you need an app from the store for either of those things on iOS? Seems like something the built-in mail would handle fine (and in all probability, better).
Muuuchem 7y ago
Thats weird because I have a Yahoo account that I manage through gmail... I am not sure how that works haha.

forgot-my-pw 7y ago

Apparently Yahoo is still big in some parts of Asia, like in Japan for example. As for the rest of the world, I don't see the point of Yahoo anymore.

kome 7y ago
Yahoo Japan has nothing to do with the American Yahoo tho... It looks beautiful btw: https://www.yahoo.co.jp/ https://www.yahoo.co.jp/ - still using the old look. "In 2017, Verizon Communications purchased the core internet business of America-based Yahoo!, and merged them into Oath, Inc. Yahoo! Japan was not affected. It continued as a joint venture between Softbank and what remained of Yahoo! Inc., renamed Altaba." more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Japan
- Bartweiss 7y ago
  Notably, prior to its acquisition Yahoo! (America) had a 35% stake in Yahoo! Japan along with 24% of Alibaba. Even while Yahoo! was independent and turning a profit, it was valued as an albatross dragging down Yahoo! Japan's prospects to the tune of about negative $4 billion. People were suggesting that a holding company should be broken out to manage all three entities without doing any business of its own, so that Yahoo's terrible prospects couldn't cut into the value of the other two. (Since an independent business can't be worse than worthless to shareholders, it would have immediately switched to a positive valuation.) Instead, the market skipped a step, divesting the functional businesses to enable a positive-value acquisition of the remains. What's fascinating is that Yahoo! Japan does something very similar to Yahoo! America, but one of the two profitable businesses was valuable while the other was understood to be doomed. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2014-04-17/how-can-yahoo-be-worth-less-than-zero https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2014-04-17/how-ca...

esfandia 7y ago

My Yahoo! is still useful. That's my customized web portal (I know, antiquated word), where I collect and access my RSS feeds. I also use Yahoo Mail and get my sports updates from Yahoo Sports.