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I'm operating three 10Gb Tor exits in a DC in Amsterdam. [1] It seems like a meaningful contribution. I assume the other operators who are not IAs have similar

I'm operating three 10Gb Tor exits in a DC in Amsterdam. [1] It seems like a meaningful contribution. I assume the other operators who are not IAs have similar reasons. [1] https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/family:38A42B8D7C0E6346F4A4821617740AEE86EA885B https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/family:38A42B8...

t34543 7y ago
Personally or on behalf of a company? I ran two in the US and folded due to legal pressure.
- KenanSulayman 7y ago
  Personally
- input_sh 7y ago
  If you don't want legal trouble, don't run exit nodes. I've configured my relay to serve as a middle node. I'm using a provider that's known to be hostile towards Tor relay operators with no repercussions for about two years now.
bureaucrat 7y ago
What datacenter do you use? How much does it cost? Did you get any legal troubles?
- Aeolun 7y ago
  Why would you get in legal trouble for hosting tor exit nodes? There’s nothing illegal about that is it?
  - throwaway-9320 7y ago
    Hosting an exit node is not illegal, but some of the users of that exit node may be doing illegal things.
  - onetimemanytime 7y ago
    Tell that to the SWAT...after the smoke grenade clears out.
    - jdnenej 7y ago
      Are smoke grenades a legit thing outside of counter strike?
      - icebraining 7y ago
        Yes: https://dod.defense.gov/OIR/gallery/igphoto/2001245589/ https://dod.defense.gov/OIR/gallery/igphoto/2001245589/
    - tripzilch 7y ago
      Did you miss the part where it wasn't the US?
      - onetimemanytime 7y ago
        every country has their own version of SWAT, some will make USA SWAT seems like angels. Also, I replied to "there's nothing illegal in running a TOR exit." In short, my reply was: maybe it's not illegal but you might suffer quit a bit by the time it's all cleared.
  - dspillett 7y ago
    The exit node could be the last known trace of illegal activity so someone could perhaps take a shot at you for aiding & abetting or similar. Right or wrong, can you afford that fight? This is one of those cases where often the question is not whether your actions are legal, the question is whether you can afford the time and resource required, and in some cases take on the potential reputational risk, to successfully defend yourself against someone (commercial, law enforcement, political, ...) who says they aren't and tries to make you stop.
hosteur 7y ago
Thank you.
robert_foss 7y ago
Good job! And thanks for running it. How much is that NForce server per month? I'm looking to move my nose away from hetzner.

t34543 7y ago

Personally or on behalf of a company? I ran two in the US and folded due to legal pressure.

KenanSulayman 7y ago
Personally
input_sh 7y ago
If you don't want legal trouble, don't run exit nodes. I've configured my relay to serve as a middle node. I'm using a provider that's known to be hostile towards Tor relay operators with no repercussions for about two years now.

bureaucrat 7y ago

What datacenter do you use? How much does it cost? Did you get any legal troubles?

Aeolun 7y ago
Why would you get in legal trouble for hosting tor exit nodes? There’s nothing illegal about that is it?
- throwaway-9320 7y ago
  Hosting an exit node is not illegal, but some of the users of that exit node may be doing illegal things.
- onetimemanytime 7y ago
  Tell that to the SWAT...after the smoke grenade clears out.
  - jdnenej 7y ago
    Are smoke grenades a legit thing outside of counter strike?
    - icebraining 7y ago
      Yes: https://dod.defense.gov/OIR/gallery/igphoto/2001245589/ https://dod.defense.gov/OIR/gallery/igphoto/2001245589/
  - tripzilch 7y ago
    Did you miss the part where it wasn't the US?
    - onetimemanytime 7y ago
      every country has their own version of SWAT, some will make USA SWAT seems like angels. Also, I replied to "there's nothing illegal in running a TOR exit." In short, my reply was: maybe it's not illegal but you might suffer quit a bit by the time it's all cleared.
- dspillett 7y ago
  The exit node could be the last known trace of illegal activity so someone could perhaps take a shot at you for aiding & abetting or similar. Right or wrong, can you afford that fight? This is one of those cases where often the question is not whether your actions are legal, the question is whether you can afford the time and resource required, and in some cases take on the potential reputational risk, to successfully defend yourself against someone (commercial, law enforcement, political, ...) who says they aren't and tries to make you stop.

hosteur 7y ago

Thank you.

robert_foss 7y ago

Good job! And thanks for running it. How much is that NForce server per month? I'm looking to move my nose away from hetzner.