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Kind of similar to North America in a way. And just like the Chinese, you guys don't realize it because as the saying goes, everybody thinks their crap doesn't

by aclsid 7y ago

Kind of similar to North America in a way. And just like the Chinese, you guys don't realize it because as the saying goes, everybody thinks their crap doesn't stink. Sure in the case of China it is a more crude form of propaganda, but if you don't believe me, just try to find information about what happened in Ecuador just now in your newsmedia. That information was supressed by media conglomerates because of a pro-US president that ended up doing something wildly unpopular. Compare the same exact event happening in a country like Venezuela. You get the idea.

goatinaboat 7y ago
Kind of similar to North America in a way. Not really the same. Americans are taught to love an abstract, idealised version of America, an eagle perched atop a flag, and it doesn’t really work, half of Americans hate even that, and that’s fine, no one really cares. Whereas the Chinese are taught to love a specific leader of a specific party operating a specific system, etc. And the consequences for not complying are harsh.
- swagasaurus-rex 7y ago
  As shitty as America is, we are allowed to criticize our government. And boy do we have a lot of harsh things to say about all of them.
  - atopuzov 7y ago
    Try criticising corporations, especially the one you work for or the one the company you work for works with.
    - TurkishPoptart 7y ago
      I hate Amazon.com. And Facebook. And Google! (Disclaimer: I still use Google search.)
- aclsid 7y ago
  Oh nobody denies that you have more political freedoms, I'm talking about why for instance, would your society focus so much about China being bad, highlighting the differences, whereas countries like Vietnam, still a communist state, you get to see tourism articles and everything. What Israel is doing to some Palestinians would also qualify as shady behavior, but what I'm saying is that I don't have a personal feud with any of those countries, and I would totally visit them. But I have friends and family that based on the amount of propaganda about China are refusing to buy certain products, use software like Wechat, etc. That is sophisticated propaganda in my opinion.

by aclsid 7y ago

goatinaboat 7y ago

Kind of similar to North America in a way. Not really the same. Americans are taught to love an abstract, idealised version of America, an eagle perched atop a flag, and it doesn’t really work, half of Americans hate even that, and that’s fine, no one really cares. Whereas the Chinese are taught to love a specific leader of a specific party operating a specific system, etc. And the consequences for not complying are harsh.

swagasaurus-rex 7y ago
As shitty as America is, we are allowed to criticize our government. And boy do we have a lot of harsh things to say about all of them.
- atopuzov 7y ago
  Try criticising corporations, especially the one you work for or the one the company you work for works with.
  - TurkishPoptart 7y ago
    I hate Amazon.com. And Facebook. And Google! (Disclaimer: I still use Google search.)
aclsid 7y ago
Oh nobody denies that you have more political freedoms, I'm talking about why for instance, would your society focus so much about China being bad, highlighting the differences, whereas countries like Vietnam, still a communist state, you get to see tourism articles and everything. What Israel is doing to some Palestinians would also qualify as shady behavior, but what I'm saying is that I don't have a personal feud with any of those countries, and I would totally visit them. But I have friends and family that based on the amount of propaganda about China are refusing to buy certain products, use software like Wechat, etc. That is sophisticated propaganda in my opinion.