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I'm more shocked at comments like yours that get echoed and promoted without any context whatsoever, but then again "Anti-Turkishism" is a thing. What I'm shoc
by OzzyB 7y ago
I'm more shocked at comments like yours that get echoed and promoted without any context whatsoever, but then again "Anti-Turkishism" is a thing.
What I'm shocked about is how a so called ally can side and arm a vowed terrorist group for years and expect there to be no fallout, but then "Pro-Kurdishism" is a thing.
I do love however the narrative that the Kurds are this angelic force that helped us when no other would for no benefit at all. Why don't you and the west just come out and say you want Turkey broken up? It would save us a lot of time instead of being constantly gas lit.
- Angostura 7y ago> Why don't you and the west just come out and say you want Turkey broken up? Because a measure of self determination for the Kurds is not synonymous with I want turkey broken up’?
- TheArcane 7y ago> Why don't you and the west just come out and say you want Turkey broken up? Self-determination is fundamentally supported in the west, like Canada for Quebec.
- driverdan 7y agoThese attacks are being made by Erdoğan and supported by Trump. Those facts alone are good reasons to question them.
- yalph 7y agoYa Obama can kill brown people. Its fiiine! I think its time for you to use your critical thinking abilities.
- y-c-o-m-b 7y agoFirst of all, not all Kurds = PKK (the terrorist organization you are referencing) and not all arms of the PKK commit acts of terrorism. Second, the atrocities committed by Turkey are on the same scale as terrorism, the difference is only in the semantics. Look at the human rights violations and civilian casualties committed by both the PKK and Turkey here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish%E2%80%93Turkish_conflict_(1978%E2%80%93present)#Casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish%E2%80%93Turkish_confli... There are families and civilians living in the regions being bombed by Turkey right now and they are defenseless because the Kurds dismantled their battle stations under the recent Turkey-US agreement. The Kurds have been massacred numerous times throughout recent history by Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. It would be naive to think a militant organization wouldn't form out of the atrocities committed onto them by these various nations as a means to protect themselves. Not to say this excuses acts of terrorism and corruption committed by the PKK, but a blanket bombing campaign is the worst possible answer.
- yalph 7y agoWhatever happened to Kurds in the past in Iraq, Iran etc is not Turkeys problem. Put yourself in the situation. You have a terrorist group that is killing your citizens for 35 fucking years. You are hosting 5 million Syrian refugees in your country. What do you do? What would the US do? I know what is happening right now is not the ideal solution but it is very hard to blame Erdogan. Also, I can assure you that Kurds in Turkey is treated much much much better that African Americans and Native Americans in the US. So what does this say about the US?
- mda 7y agoIs it a blanket bombing campaign though? Do you really believe Turkey is indiscriminately bombing civilians?
- kamyarg 7y agoKurds have never been massacred by Iran. There has been clashes with the governments(both pre and post revolution), but nothing like what you see in Turkey and Iraq where government targets civilians en masse based on their Kurdish ethnicity.
- OldFatCactus 7y agodefending fascism is a bold move, my man
- pbhjpbhj 7y agoOpposition to Erdogan's apparent desire to murder all those who oppose him =/= opposition to Turkey.