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Pot? That's your argument? Show me the state where you can show full penetrative sex on public TV at 9pm, like you can in europe, and I'll agree they're indepe

by sho 7y ago

Pot? That's your argument? Show me the state where you can show full penetrative sex on public TV at 9pm, like you can in europe, and I'll agree they're independent. EDIT: OK, that was a dumb example. Substitute banning guns, or lowering the drinking age, or lowering income tax. Country-level things.

mmazing 7y ago
Seems like a pretty high bar.
metalchianti 7y ago
Yes, a psychoactive drug with a longstanding and controversial social history having substantial legal differences state-to-state is VERY significant and representative of what statehood represents in the US. Are you from the US? Based on your OP I'm not sure how much you understand mechanics of the federation. And TBH I'm not sure how much you understand China--personally I think 1930s era fascism is a better analogy.
- greedo 7y ago
  The Supremacy clause of the Constitution really has gutted the original premise of states rights. The only reason that the Federal government doesn't send in the DEA to Oregon/WA/Colorado much anymore is due to politics and culture, not legal mechanisms.
- sho 7y ago
  > is VERY significant and representative of what statehood represents in the US Not really. It's frigging pot. It's been de-facto legal for decades. Show me a state doing something serious, like banning guns, reversing roe v wade, changing the state language, change the voting age. Difference-between-country stuff. I should have thought of something like that for my initial post; would have reduced this silly nitpicking. And thanks, I'm not from the USA but I'm from a federation too so yeah, I have some idea. As for the China knowledge - looking forward to your cogent, evidenced retort. 请说普通话。
  - matwood 7y ago
    > banning guns, reversing roe v wade You realize gun and abortion laws already vary greatly from state to state?
    - sho 7y ago
      No-where near as much as they vary country to country.
reroute1 7y ago
How is sex on public tv a better indicator?
matwood 7y ago
Show me a state that wants this type of sex on public TV at 9pm? Many think the public decency laws are outdated, but see little point in fighting them since going on the internet is perfectly legal for anything you want to see. > like you can in europe Europe is not an homogeneous place. Some parts of Europe are just as if not more conservative than the most conservative parts of the US. Europe in fact proves my point if we think of Europe (the EU) as a collection of nation states each with their own local laws. BTW, where in Europe is full penetration shown on a public TV at 9pm?

by sho 7y ago

mmazing 7y ago

Seems like a pretty high bar.

metalchianti 7y ago

Yes, a psychoactive drug with a longstanding and controversial social history having substantial legal differences state-to-state is VERY significant and representative of what statehood represents in the US. Are you from the US? Based on your OP I'm not sure how much you understand mechanics of the federation. And TBH I'm not sure how much you understand China--personally I think 1930s era fascism is a better analogy.

greedo 7y ago
The Supremacy clause of the Constitution really has gutted the original premise of states rights. The only reason that the Federal government doesn't send in the DEA to Oregon/WA/Colorado much anymore is due to politics and culture, not legal mechanisms.
sho 7y ago
> is VERY significant and representative of what statehood represents in the US Not really. It's frigging pot. It's been de-facto legal for decades. Show me a state doing something serious, like banning guns, reversing roe v wade, changing the state language, change the voting age. Difference-between-country stuff. I should have thought of something like that for my initial post; would have reduced this silly nitpicking. And thanks, I'm not from the USA but I'm from a federation too so yeah, I have some idea. As for the China knowledge - looking forward to your cogent, evidenced retort. 请说普通话。
- matwood 7y ago
  > banning guns, reversing roe v wade You realize gun and abortion laws already vary greatly from state to state?
  - sho 7y ago
    No-where near as much as they vary country to country.

reroute1 7y ago

How is sex on public tv a better indicator?

matwood 7y ago

Show me a state that wants this type of sex on public TV at 9pm? Many think the public decency laws are outdated, but see little point in fighting them since going on the internet is perfectly legal for anything you want to see. > like you can in europe Europe is not an homogeneous place. Some parts of Europe are just as if not more conservative than the most conservative parts of the US. Europe in fact proves my point if we think of Europe (the EU) as a collection of nation states each with their own local laws. BTW, where in Europe is full penetration shown on a public TV at 9pm?