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And my music library slowly disappears from Apple Music (or Spotify) with every passing beat. And my chat service (iMessage) won't let me talk with outside peo

And my music library slowly disappears from Apple Music (or Spotify) with every passing beat. And my chat service (iMessage) won't let me talk with outside people... yes I know SMS still works. And my photos slowly become fuzzy, surely this is a bug when it happens, right!? And my backups are in proprietary encryption file systems. Well I changed that by moving off macOS at this point. What's next, I don't even want to imagine anymore.

fyfy18 7y ago
Don't forget no longer being able to watch your favourite movies, when the studios decide the service you subscribe to is no longer profitable for them.
- acdha 7y ago
  If it has DRM, your mistake was thinking of it as a purchase rather than a rental.
  - nixpulvis 7y ago
    I've been calling it "Apple Radio". Fanboys don't love it.
    - acdha 7y ago
      I’m glad they called it Apple Music to avoid confusion: iTunes is stuff you own, Apple Music is a rental library.
      - nixpulvis 7y ago
        looks for an app named iTunes...
scarface74 7y ago
Your music library doesn’t disappear - if you bought music from iTunes. The music you bought would/could be on your computer. If you bought it within the last decade, it would be DRM free.
- nixpulvis 7y ago
  Ah yes my music! You mean songs that have been overwritten by whatever match they decide is close enough (in some cases). Or you mean my music, that I've listened two maybe 200 times each. Or do you mean my music, that the artists themselves gave to me. I don't much care for your argument, even if you're legally correct. This would be less of an issue if the way people actually acquired music was still by buying the album, but that's not the case in the vast majority of people's experiences.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    No, I mean music that you purchased from iTunes and downloaded onto your computer and hopefully backed up. As opposed to music that is part of a subscription where you explicitly knew was being rented.
    - nixpulvis 7y ago
      I'm sorry, when was the last time you rented something to put into your "library". The way they sell these subscription services doesn't make it at all clear to the users what they are buying. P.S. plus think about who this model helps the most. It's surely not the artists themselves, especially if the songs I know and love can't be played anymore. What artist would want their work to become inaccessible to those who love it?
      - scarface74 7y ago
        Are you really saying that most users don’t know when they stop paying for Apple Music or Spotify they will lose access to their music? The iTunes Music Store where you buy music and pay a one time cost has been around since 2003 and has been completely DRM free since 2009. That’s like saying people don’t know content isn’t on Netflix forever.
noobermin 7y ago
Along with the free software movement, I would be here with a movement that allows us to return to self-hosted, native and peer-to-peer services. There seem to be a smattering of them out there but they are disorganized and not united under one banner like FOSS is.
- lallysingh 7y ago
  Without building and running your own full-blown PC at home, I think the best option is a consumer NAS. Which are great; I love mine. But they don't seem to advertise and very few people know it's a really good option (with phone apps to replace the cloud ones, even).
  - megous 7y ago
    It's possible to run server software on HW that costs $10-$15 + a cost of a SD card ($6 for 32GB). Power bill is negligible and there's no noise. It's very cheap to run self-hosted these days even on your own HW. 1GB/20GB VMs cost $1-$2 per month. Really, this should be an age of self-hosted if the cost was ever a limit.
    - noobermin 7y ago
      Been wanting to start try nextcloudpi[0] but I need the time to learn and set it up (even if it's an hour of reading). My point is for someone not as willing to learn as me, it's at least harder than signing up for OneDrive, Dropbox, etc. [0] https://ownyourbits.com/nextcloudpi/ https://ownyourbits.com/nextcloudpi/
      - benhurmarcel 7y ago
        I've been thinking of getting a Nextcloud instance at Hetzner maybe. It's fairly easy, and managed.
    - lallysingh 7y ago
      It's the software support and maintenance that's hard. Replacement apps and configuration. Especially if you want to do email...
CryptoPunk 7y ago
As unpopular as it is in general-subject tech forums, the solution is data stores that provide decentralization and censorship resistance through distributed consensus enabled by crypto-economics, namely the blockchain. One day, the provision of every electronic service in the world could be coordinated in a censorship resistant manner on the blockchain. Before that happens, the cryptoasset/blockchain space's software suite needs to be improved, with solutions to problems like stolen and lost private keys, and scalability needs to improve a few orders of magnitude, but seeing all of the development on dApps and smart wallets, and all the work happening to enable layer 1 sharding and to develop layer 2 scalability mechanisms like zk roll-up, I suspect it's inevitable.
- icebraining 7y ago
  Why do you need consensus at all?
  - CryptoPunk 7y ago
    For markets to operate, you need a global consensus on the state of ownership.
    - TeMPOraL 7y ago
      I don't think it'll help with anything except perpetuating the artificial scarcity. The most basic proof of ownership is the fact of having that something, and there being no party claiming that you took it from them. Copying bits is so cheap everyone can get a copy from someone else who volunteered their copy and there's no point in even metering that. There's arguably little sense to have a market for digital data, yet we persist at trying. What you're seeking with blockchain is proof of compliance with a complex and somewhat arbitrary set of regulations.
      - CryptoPunk 7y ago
        Bandwidth and storage are both scarce resources and metering them out so producers are compensated is necessary to enable an economically sufficient quantity of both to be produced. I agree that intellectual property rights might reduce overall efficiency due to the artificial complexity and friction it adds.
benj111 7y ago
Your books start disappearing from your ereader? https://io9.gizmodo.com/amazon-secretly-removes-1984-from-the-kindle-5317703 https://io9.gizmodo.com/amazon-secretly-removes-1984-from-th...
spsful 7y ago
I don't understand what point you're trying to make. Half of these aren't even problems?
- rimliu 7y ago
  Move on. It is just a popular rant.
fouc 7y ago
>And my photos slowly become fuzzy, surely this is a bug when it happens, right!? What are you referring to here? The switch to retina display which makes all the old photos seem fuzzy if displayed at the same "resolution" ?

fyfy18 7y ago

Don't forget no longer being able to watch your favourite movies, when the studios decide the service you subscribe to is no longer profitable for them.

acdha 7y ago
If it has DRM, your mistake was thinking of it as a purchase rather than a rental.
- nixpulvis 7y ago
  I've been calling it "Apple Radio". Fanboys don't love it.
  - acdha 7y ago
    I’m glad they called it Apple Music to avoid confusion: iTunes is stuff you own, Apple Music is a rental library.
    - nixpulvis 7y ago
      looks for an app named iTunes...

scarface74 7y ago

Your music library doesn’t disappear - if you bought music from iTunes. The music you bought would/could be on your computer. If you bought it within the last decade, it would be DRM free.

nixpulvis 7y ago
Ah yes my music! You mean songs that have been overwritten by whatever match they decide is close enough (in some cases). Or you mean my music, that I've listened two maybe 200 times each. Or do you mean my music, that the artists themselves gave to me. I don't much care for your argument, even if you're legally correct. This would be less of an issue if the way people actually acquired music was still by buying the album, but that's not the case in the vast majority of people's experiences.
- scarface74 7y ago
  No, I mean music that you purchased from iTunes and downloaded onto your computer and hopefully backed up. As opposed to music that is part of a subscription where you explicitly knew was being rented.
  - nixpulvis 7y ago
    I'm sorry, when was the last time you rented something to put into your "library". The way they sell these subscription services doesn't make it at all clear to the users what they are buying. P.S. plus think about who this model helps the most. It's surely not the artists themselves, especially if the songs I know and love can't be played anymore. What artist would want their work to become inaccessible to those who love it?
    - scarface74 7y ago
      Are you really saying that most users don’t know when they stop paying for Apple Music or Spotify they will lose access to their music? The iTunes Music Store where you buy music and pay a one time cost has been around since 2003 and has been completely DRM free since 2009. That’s like saying people don’t know content isn’t on Netflix forever.

noobermin 7y ago

Along with the free software movement, I would be here with a movement that allows us to return to self-hosted, native and peer-to-peer services. There seem to be a smattering of them out there but they are disorganized and not united under one banner like FOSS is.

lallysingh 7y ago
Without building and running your own full-blown PC at home, I think the best option is a consumer NAS. Which are great; I love mine. But they don't seem to advertise and very few people know it's a really good option (with phone apps to replace the cloud ones, even).
- megous 7y ago
  It's possible to run server software on HW that costs $10-$15 + a cost of a SD card ($6 for 32GB). Power bill is negligible and there's no noise. It's very cheap to run self-hosted these days even on your own HW. 1GB/20GB VMs cost $1-$2 per month. Really, this should be an age of self-hosted if the cost was ever a limit.
  - noobermin 7y ago
    Been wanting to start try nextcloudpi[0] but I need the time to learn and set it up (even if it's an hour of reading). My point is for someone not as willing to learn as me, it's at least harder than signing up for OneDrive, Dropbox, etc. [0] https://ownyourbits.com/nextcloudpi/ https://ownyourbits.com/nextcloudpi/
    - benhurmarcel 7y ago
      I've been thinking of getting a Nextcloud instance at Hetzner maybe. It's fairly easy, and managed.
  - lallysingh 7y ago
    It's the software support and maintenance that's hard. Replacement apps and configuration. Especially if you want to do email...

CryptoPunk 7y ago

As unpopular as it is in general-subject tech forums, the solution is data stores that provide decentralization and censorship resistance through distributed consensus enabled by crypto-economics, namely the blockchain. One day, the provision of every electronic service in the world could be coordinated in a censorship resistant manner on the blockchain. Before that happens, the cryptoasset/blockchain space's software suite needs to be improved, with solutions to problems like stolen and lost private keys, and scalability needs to improve a few orders of magnitude, but seeing all of the development on dApps and smart wallets, and all the work happening to enable layer 1 sharding and to develop layer 2 scalability mechanisms like zk roll-up, I suspect it's inevitable.

icebraining 7y ago
Why do you need consensus at all?
- CryptoPunk 7y ago
  For markets to operate, you need a global consensus on the state of ownership.
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    I don't think it'll help with anything except perpetuating the artificial scarcity. The most basic proof of ownership is the fact of having that something, and there being no party claiming that you took it from them. Copying bits is so cheap everyone can get a copy from someone else who volunteered their copy and there's no point in even metering that. There's arguably little sense to have a market for digital data, yet we persist at trying. What you're seeking with blockchain is proof of compliance with a complex and somewhat arbitrary set of regulations.
    - CryptoPunk 7y ago
      Bandwidth and storage are both scarce resources and metering them out so producers are compensated is necessary to enable an economically sufficient quantity of both to be produced. I agree that intellectual property rights might reduce overall efficiency due to the artificial complexity and friction it adds.

benj111 7y ago

Your books start disappearing from your ereader? https://io9.gizmodo.com/amazon-secretly-removes-1984-from-the-kindle-5317703 https://io9.gizmodo.com/amazon-secretly-removes-1984-from-th...

spsful 7y ago

I don't understand what point you're trying to make. Half of these aren't even problems?

rimliu 7y ago
Move on. It is just a popular rant.

fouc 7y ago

>And my photos slowly become fuzzy, surely this is a bug when it happens, right!? What are you referring to here? The switch to retina display which makes all the old photos seem fuzzy if displayed at the same "resolution" ?