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I don't know if things are different now, but when I went to school in HK a long time ago, most Chinese people in Hong Kong I talked to felt Taiwan should be pa

I don't know if things are different now, but when I went to school in HK a long time ago, most Chinese people in Hong Kong I talked to felt Taiwan should be part of China.

johnzim 7y ago
1 Country 2 Systems has been shown to be a scam so things have changed. I can't speak for people of my generation but the kids are alright.
- 7u5432throw 7y ago
  Macau is doing fine.
- georgeecollins 7y ago
  I agree, but I think the idea (then) was that people were very proud of being Chinese, and thought that Taiwan should be part of China. They may have wanted a different Chinese government, but not one that didn't rule over Taiwan.
lonelappde 7y ago
It's interesting that someone thinks that people of one region have a relevant opinion about what government people of another region should be controlled by.
- your-nanny 7y ago
  why is that interesting?.
  - your-nanny 7y ago
    Are questions against Hacker News guidelines!?!?!?!?!?
- thefringthing 7y ago
  Isn't that exactly what most of the commenters on this post are doing?
rolltiide 7y ago
Using the US as an example: Americans defer their understanding of a region based on people with tangential relationships to the region. So in America, people's understanding of Taiwan is represented only by people from Taiwan that left. Generations ago. Same goes for "China", in whatever state it was at the time the Asian-American's family left. This is from people that actively try to avoid being insensitive. But it means there are always limitations in perspective. It requires that any one person represent the 'truth' for an entire group of people, and never understanding if that 'truth' has consensus. Cohesion in American society means never challenging the consensus of someone representing a group that you aren't a part of.
- Analemma_ 7y ago
  I visit Taiwan every couple years, and when I go, I make a note to ask people I meet what they think about reuniting with China. Every single time, the answer has been not just no, but an angry hell no.
  - rolltiide 7y ago
    yes, but this thread isn't just about Taiwan. Its about HK's perspective of Taiwan at a certain point in time and how it is easy to miss their perspective and just assume all satellite's of mainland China have the same view of what the composition of China would be. When its not true. In the same vein, many people in the US and abroad would find Taiwan's view of Tibet to be surprisingly uncollaborative over different points in recent history. Many people are so focused on Greater-China satellite victim complexes such that many assume they all see each other the same way when thats not the case at all.
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kaybe 7y ago
I encourage everyone who has not done so to have a closer look at Taiwan's history. The situation is markedly different from Hong Kong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan#Republic_of_China_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan#Republic_of_China_rule
- Synaesthesia 7y ago
  Of course it's very different. Taiwan was a right wing dictatorship which ruled by terror, they don't have much of my sympathy.
  - uwuhn 7y ago
    So was South Korea.
    - Synaesthesia 7y ago
      Right

I don't know if things are different now, but when I went to school in HK a long time ago, most Chinese people in Hong Kong I talked to felt Taiwan should be part of China.

johnzim 7y ago

1 Country 2 Systems has been shown to be a scam so things have changed. I can't speak for people of my generation but the kids are alright.

7u5432throw 7y ago
Macau is doing fine.
georgeecollins 7y ago
I agree, but I think the idea (then) was that people were very proud of being Chinese, and thought that Taiwan should be part of China. They may have wanted a different Chinese government, but not one that didn't rule over Taiwan.

lonelappde 7y ago

It's interesting that someone thinks that people of one region have a relevant opinion about what government people of another region should be controlled by.

your-nanny 7y ago
why is that interesting?.
- your-nanny 7y ago
  Are questions against Hacker News guidelines!?!?!?!?!?
thefringthing 7y ago
Isn't that exactly what most of the commenters on this post are doing?

rolltiide 7y ago

Using the US as an example: Americans defer their understanding of a region based on people with tangential relationships to the region. So in America, people's understanding of Taiwan is represented only by people from Taiwan that left. Generations ago. Same goes for "China", in whatever state it was at the time the Asian-American's family left. This is from people that actively try to avoid being insensitive. But it means there are always limitations in perspective. It requires that any one person represent the 'truth' for an entire group of people, and never understanding if that 'truth' has consensus. Cohesion in American society means never challenging the consensus of someone representing a group that you aren't a part of.

Analemma_ 7y ago
I visit Taiwan every couple years, and when I go, I make a note to ask people I meet what they think about reuniting with China. Every single time, the answer has been not just no, but an angry hell no.
- rolltiide 7y ago
  yes, but this thread isn't just about Taiwan. Its about HK's perspective of Taiwan at a certain point in time and how it is easy to miss their perspective and just assume all satellite's of mainland China have the same view of what the composition of China would be. When its not true. In the same vein, many people in the US and abroad would find Taiwan's view of Tibet to be surprisingly uncollaborative over different points in recent history. Many people are so focused on Greater-China satellite victim complexes such that many assume they all see each other the same way when thats not the case at all.

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kaybe 7y ago

I encourage everyone who has not done so to have a closer look at Taiwan's history. The situation is markedly different from Hong Kong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan#Republic_of_China_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan#Republic_of_China_rule

Synaesthesia 7y ago
Of course it's very different. Taiwan was a right wing dictatorship which ruled by terror, they don't have much of my sympathy.
- uwuhn 7y ago
  So was South Korea.
  - Synaesthesia 7y ago
    Right