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As with everything internet: good doesn't last. Now that Reddit has started its demise, where do we flok to next?

by neals 7y ago

jokoon 7y ago
I just discovered that I can't browse voat without login in...
johnchristopher 7y ago
Maybe the stars are aligned for early adopters to try out a decentralized messaging style medium ?
- deleted 7y ago
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- vkou 7y ago
  Unless you have a truly original idea that nobody who has given this throught stumbled on - it's not, and it won't work for all the same reasons that Mastodon does not work. Those reasons are harassment, child pornography, and having to delegate censorship to moderators/people with way too much time on their hands. You end up back where you started, with a clunky layer of centralized censorship on top of a distributed system.
- FreeTrade 7y ago
  I believe it is. https://memberapp.github.io/ https://memberapp.github.io/ All posts are stored on the blockchain using the Memo protocol.
  - johnchristopher 7y ago
    I haven't looked at the software stack but this can't compete with whatsapp/telegram/line on look.
growt 7y ago
I'm not sure if its really a demise. For 99% of users it doesn't matter or it's even positive to not be associated with groups about hate speech or similar stuff.
- akhilcacharya 7y ago
  I’ve been on the site for 7 years (8 in a few days), have been part of the Century Club for 5 years and I would love to see the site with less bigotry. I would say it would be an improvement!
foldr 7y ago
You're saying this on HN: a site that's vastly more regulated than reddit ever has been or is likely to be. I'm old enough to remember reddit before the days of subreddits. It wasn't a magnet for extreme content back then. That happened as a result of subreddits.
- jchw 7y ago
  Reddit and Hacker News aren’t really similar/comparable, and extreme content came much, much later than the existence of subreddits (and the admins took a very hands off approach to it then, too.)
  - foldr 7y ago
    Ah yeah, I didn't mean to suggest that subreddits immediately led to extreme content. However, they obviously are part of what enables it, since that stuff would never have got voted onto the reddit front page.
- thefz 7y ago
  You are right, but HN is regulated. Reddit is moderated. On Reddit there are so many examples of straight bad moderation, personal feuds, and aberrant behavior recently. Take a peek at /r/watchredditdie.
  - pjc50 7y ago
    I'm not sure what the distinction is here?
    - krapp 7y ago
      There is no distinction. HN is aggressively moderated according to a set of guidelines (regulations.)
- golergka 7y ago
  And that's why HN is only good for a very specific and narrow subtopic of the whole reddit universe. You can't even have decent political discussion here, not mentioning all the other Reddit's delightful crazyness.
agumonkey 7y ago
As with everything in life. The virginial bliss cannot sustain. As always, you need compromises and structure to integrate with external world support. Hopefully they don't change it too much.
tanilama 7y ago
You can go to 4chan or 8chan, there is always some place for even more fringe opinions.
seiko988 7y ago
A quick glance at the voat entry will convince you that whatever comes next must withstand a banking blockade, DDOS, bitcoin dust attack, DNS denial and possibly no one will host your domain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voat
t34543 7y ago
Reddit really went downhill starting around 2015, so a continued decline isn’t all that surprising

As with everything internet: good doesn't last. Now that Reddit has started its demise, where do we flok to next?

by neals 7y ago

As with everything internet: good doesn't last. Now that Reddit has started its demise, where do we flok to next?

jokoon 7y ago

I just discovered that I can't browse voat without login in...

johnchristopher 7y ago

Maybe the stars are aligned for early adopters to try out a decentralized messaging style medium ?

deleted 7y ago
[deleted]
vkou 7y ago
Unless you have a truly original idea that nobody who has given this throught stumbled on - it's not, and it won't work for all the same reasons that Mastodon does not work. Those reasons are harassment, child pornography, and having to delegate censorship to moderators/people with way too much time on their hands. You end up back where you started, with a clunky layer of centralized censorship on top of a distributed system.
FreeTrade 7y ago
I believe it is. https://memberapp.github.io/ https://memberapp.github.io/ All posts are stored on the blockchain using the Memo protocol.
- johnchristopher 7y ago
  I haven't looked at the software stack but this can't compete with whatsapp/telegram/line on look.

growt 7y ago

I'm not sure if its really a demise. For 99% of users it doesn't matter or it's even positive to not be associated with groups about hate speech or similar stuff.

akhilcacharya 7y ago
I’ve been on the site for 7 years (8 in a few days), have been part of the Century Club for 5 years and I would love to see the site with less bigotry. I would say it would be an improvement!

foldr 7y ago

You're saying this on HN: a site that's vastly more regulated than reddit ever has been or is likely to be. I'm old enough to remember reddit before the days of subreddits. It wasn't a magnet for extreme content back then. That happened as a result of subreddits.

jchw 7y ago
Reddit and Hacker News aren’t really similar/comparable, and extreme content came much, much later than the existence of subreddits (and the admins took a very hands off approach to it then, too.)
- foldr 7y ago
  Ah yeah, I didn't mean to suggest that subreddits immediately led to extreme content. However, they obviously are part of what enables it, since that stuff would never have got voted onto the reddit front page.
thefz 7y ago
You are right, but HN is regulated. Reddit is moderated. On Reddit there are so many examples of straight bad moderation, personal feuds, and aberrant behavior recently. Take a peek at /r/watchredditdie.
- pjc50 7y ago
  I'm not sure what the distinction is here?
  - krapp 7y ago
    There is no distinction. HN is aggressively moderated according to a set of guidelines (regulations.)
golergka 7y ago
And that's why HN is only good for a very specific and narrow subtopic of the whole reddit universe. You can't even have decent political discussion here, not mentioning all the other Reddit's delightful crazyness.

agumonkey 7y ago

As with everything in life. The virginial bliss cannot sustain. As always, you need compromises and structure to integrate with external world support. Hopefully they don't change it too much.

tanilama 7y ago

You can go to 4chan or 8chan, there is always some place for even more fringe opinions.

seiko988 7y ago

A quick glance at the voat entry will convince you that whatever comes next must withstand a banking blockade, DDOS, bitcoin dust attack, DNS denial and possibly no one will host your domain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voat

t34543 7y ago

Reddit really went downhill starting around 2015, so a continued decline isn’t all that surprising