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> If the city has any ambition to be a melting pot for all, it needs to allow everyone to coexist. Some people will choose to drive, others will take transit, b

> If the city has any ambition to be a melting pot for all, it needs to allow everyone to coexist. Some people will choose to drive, others will take transit, but to push one group out in favor of another will leave the city a hollowed out core once again They aren't banning cars in the city, just slightly deprioritizing them in favor of other modes of transport on certain routes. That's what it means to allow different modes of transport to "coexist". The fact that you equate building 200 miles of bike lanes to "pushing drivers out" when tens of thousands of miles of road already exist for cars says something about the entitlement complex that you and your fellow drivers possess.

maxaf 7y ago
> The fact that you equate building 200 miles of bike lanes to "pushing drivers out" I haven't actually said that, so please don't put words in my mouth. I myself am an "intermodal" traveler, in that I do use bikes when I travel solo; I simply can't transport my 11 year old daughter by bike with two backpacks. I'm in favor of installing more bike lanes, as these tend to get cyclists out of the way of cars. Mixing slow cyclists with fast cars couldn't have been a worse idea, so shunting the two modes of traffic into separate spaces makes a lot of sense for us drivers. Likewise, when I ride a bike, I find myself relaxing more in a dedicated lane than when I'm forced to weave between cars to get anywhere.
- Scoundreller 7y ago
  > I simply can't transport my 11 year old daughter by bike with two backpacks. How Parisians use e-scooters is going to give you a heart attack.
  - maxaf 7y ago
    How people use e-anything in Manhattan already gives me a heart attack. These things are 100% silent, go 25 mph on a flat surface, and are illegal here without a license. In fact, I’d prefer a heart attack to being hit by one.

maxaf 7y ago

> The fact that you equate building 200 miles of bike lanes to "pushing drivers out" I haven't actually said that, so please don't put words in my mouth. I myself am an "intermodal" traveler, in that I do use bikes when I travel solo; I simply can't transport my 11 year old daughter by bike with two backpacks. I'm in favor of installing more bike lanes, as these tend to get cyclists out of the way of cars. Mixing slow cyclists with fast cars couldn't have been a worse idea, so shunting the two modes of traffic into separate spaces makes a lot of sense for us drivers. Likewise, when I ride a bike, I find myself relaxing more in a dedicated lane than when I'm forced to weave between cars to get anywhere.

Scoundreller 7y ago
> I simply can't transport my 11 year old daughter by bike with two backpacks. How Parisians use e-scooters is going to give you a heart attack.
- maxaf 7y ago
  How people use e-anything in Manhattan already gives me a heart attack. These things are 100% silent, go 25 mph on a flat surface, and are illegal here without a license. In fact, I’d prefer a heart attack to being hit by one.