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How would you then explain well-to-do parents -- not to mention with reputations to protect -- coming out in opposition to the way vaccines are administered and

How would you then explain well-to-do parents -- not to mention with reputations to protect -- coming out in opposition to the way vaccines are administered and the current vaccine regime in general? [1] [2] What do they possibly have to gain from taking these adversarial positions in such hotly contested issues? Is it really possible that they are grossly misinformed too? These people have the net worth to wholly forsake raising their kids here and picking some foreign domicile that offers them choice in these vaccination issues. [1] Robert De Niro and RFK Jr. have joined forces to push vaccine nonsense https://www.vox.com/2017/2/15/14622632/robert-de-niro-rfk-jr-vaccine-press-conference https://www.vox.com/2017/2/15/14622632/robert-de-niro-rfk-jr... [2] Jessica Biel Weighs In on Vaccine Fight, Drawing Fierce Pushback https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/13/us/jessica-biel-anti-vaxx-california.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/13/us/jessica-biel-anti-vaxx...

ianai 7y ago
I was particularly annoyed when I found out vaccines sometimes use Aluminium to kick up the immune system. I don’t know how widespread the use was or is, but that certainly didn’t help. I don’t want a heavy metal added to my body...edit-see my comment below, this is false There’s a certain power and thus seduction to just claiming you know something other people don’t know. There will always be dissension for the sake of dissent.
- hhas01 7y ago
  Aluminium is a “heavy metal”? Delete your account, you scientific illiterate.
- ianai 7y ago
  Correction/TIL-per google, aluminum does eventually get removed from the body. Now I know.
  - arbitrary_name 7y ago
    Unfortunately, you didn’t check whether you opinion had any basis in fact prior to sharing it. That is part of the problem. At least you are willing to acknowledge it, but most aren’t. So here we are.
    - ianai 7y ago
      Please review the HN guidelines.
  - hhas01 7y ago
    Well isn’t that fortunate, seeing as aluminium is only the third most common element in the Earth’s crust and so everywhere you go you’re already exposed to it every day of your life; in the food you eat, in the dust you breathe, in the cuts on your knees from playing in the dirt like a regular child. And, just like every other element/compound (cyanide, lead, water, oxygen, and so on) which your body encounters, Al will have toxic effects at sufficiently high levels, so evolution has developed numerous mechanisms for excreting it before it ever reaches harmful levels. Ironically, Al is added to vaccines as an adjuvant, thus reducing the amount of antigens needed to provide an effective dose. And the quantity of Al used is tiny; less than what babby is already exposed to through the environment. So you’d think that “vaccine-concerned” parents would be all for something that actually reduces exposure to active ingredients. But as we’ve seen again and again, your average anti-vaxxer doesn’t know biochemistry, epidemiology, and risk-vs-benefit calculations from a kick to the head; though that’s hardly surprising for a bunch of malignant narcissists all pathologically incapable of counting beyond One.
orwin 7y ago
> What do they possibly have to gain from taking these adversarial positions in such hotly contested issues? Is it really possible that they are grossly misinformed too? Yes. They also have kids with working immune system and if their children get measles, they have enough money to have them checked before anything debilitating happens. The child of my mother's cousins died in 2016 because he couldnt get vaccinated (his immune system was too weak), and those antivax who chose not to vaccine their children disturbed the herd immunity. Murderers.

ianai 7y ago

I was particularly annoyed when I found out vaccines sometimes use Aluminium to kick up the immune system. I don’t know how widespread the use was or is, but that certainly didn’t help. I don’t want a heavy metal added to my body...edit-see my comment below, this is false There’s a certain power and thus seduction to just claiming you know something other people don’t know. There will always be dissension for the sake of dissent.

hhas01 7y ago
Aluminium is a “heavy metal”? Delete your account, you scientific illiterate.
ianai 7y ago
Correction/TIL-per google, aluminum does eventually get removed from the body. Now I know.
- arbitrary_name 7y ago
  Unfortunately, you didn’t check whether you opinion had any basis in fact prior to sharing it. That is part of the problem. At least you are willing to acknowledge it, but most aren’t. So here we are.
  - ianai 7y ago
    Please review the HN guidelines.
- hhas01 7y ago
  Well isn’t that fortunate, seeing as aluminium is only the third most common element in the Earth’s crust and so everywhere you go you’re already exposed to it every day of your life; in the food you eat, in the dust you breathe, in the cuts on your knees from playing in the dirt like a regular child. And, just like every other element/compound (cyanide, lead, water, oxygen, and so on) which your body encounters, Al will have toxic effects at sufficiently high levels, so evolution has developed numerous mechanisms for excreting it before it ever reaches harmful levels. Ironically, Al is added to vaccines as an adjuvant, thus reducing the amount of antigens needed to provide an effective dose. And the quantity of Al used is tiny; less than what babby is already exposed to through the environment. So you’d think that “vaccine-concerned” parents would be all for something that actually reduces exposure to active ingredients. But as we’ve seen again and again, your average anti-vaxxer doesn’t know biochemistry, epidemiology, and risk-vs-benefit calculations from a kick to the head; though that’s hardly surprising for a bunch of malignant narcissists all pathologically incapable of counting beyond One.

orwin 7y ago

> What do they possibly have to gain from taking these adversarial positions in such hotly contested issues? Is it really possible that they are grossly misinformed too? Yes. They also have kids with working immune system and if their children get measles, they have enough money to have them checked before anything debilitating happens. The child of my mother's cousins died in 2016 because he couldnt get vaccinated (his immune system was too weak), and those antivax who chose not to vaccine their children disturbed the herd immunity. Murderers.