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Cant recommend not running a TOR exit node from home enough. When i was running mine for the ~6 months it was online, cox would shut my internet off for various

Cant recommend not running a TOR exit node from home enough. When i was running mine for the ~6 months it was online, cox would shut my internet off for various reasons on a weekly basis.

icelancer 7y ago
My IP got blacklisted from various sites for simply running a non-exit relay. People say it's totally safe to run a relay/bridge; it is not.
- blfr 7y ago
  Which sites?
  - mirimir 7y ago
    Not op, but it's my understanding that they can blacklist pretty much the same sites as for exit relays. So your email client may stop working, Also search sites, social media, etc.
    - blfr 7y ago
      Obviously, anyone can blacklist anyone for any reason on the Internet and relay nodes' IPs are public. But do they? I run a relay node on my personal server and never had any issues. But 1) I rarely browse the Internet from that IP and 2) it's in OVH so if it were blacklisted, it could be because of that.
      - icelancer 7y ago
        Banks, Amazon, etc. Ended up on a blacklist for serving a relay from my personal home IP.
  - lozaning 7y ago
    EVERYTHING behind cloudflare will captcha you on every page load. Have a dynamic IP from your ISP, they'll know about the new one with 30 minutes.
- mirimir 7y ago
  Maybe they used to. Tor Project does not recommend running even middle relays from home.
- noident 7y ago
  Hosting a bridge from home is safe. They're not in the global relay list so nobody knows which IP to block. Middle relays should be safe to host from home but unfortunately some overzealous 3rd party lists of "evil IPs" include them.
- amelius 7y ago
  Perhaps Tor should become an integral part of the TCP/IP stack. That way, exit nodes would simply be the destination nodes for every connection. (?)
  - als0 7y ago
    I'm finding it difficult to understand what you're saying. You can already funnel all your traffic using a Tor SOCK proxy. So you don't need any changes to the TCP/IP stack to do what you seem to want. However, forwarding all your traffic increases the risk of fingerprinting, so you should give it careful consideration.
    - amelius 7y ago
      Let me clarify, because you are talking about something else. One of Tor's weaknesses is that you always need exit nodes, and running an exit node comes with certain risks. Now, what I'm saying is that if Tor was an integral part of the internet, then everybody would effectively be running exit nodes. The exit node and the destination node would be same thing. Government agencies wouldn't be able to take down exit nodes because that would mean they would have to take down the entire internet.
maeln 7y ago
Also, depending on the country, you can be hold responsible if someone use your exit node to do something illegal. As far as I remember, in France, you can get the same status as an ISP (don't remember the name though) to be able to run an exit node without being held responsible. But you will have to respect certain rules.

Cant recommend not running a TOR exit node from home enough. When i was running mine for the ~6 months it was online, cox would shut my internet off for various reasons on a weekly basis.

icelancer 7y ago

My IP got blacklisted from various sites for simply running a non-exit relay. People say it's totally safe to run a relay/bridge; it is not.

blfr 7y ago
Which sites?
- mirimir 7y ago
  Not op, but it's my understanding that they can blacklist pretty much the same sites as for exit relays. So your email client may stop working, Also search sites, social media, etc.
  - blfr 7y ago
    Obviously, anyone can blacklist anyone for any reason on the Internet and relay nodes' IPs are public. But do they? I run a relay node on my personal server and never had any issues. But 1) I rarely browse the Internet from that IP and 2) it's in OVH so if it were blacklisted, it could be because of that.
    - icelancer 7y ago
      Banks, Amazon, etc. Ended up on a blacklist for serving a relay from my personal home IP.
- lozaning 7y ago
  EVERYTHING behind cloudflare will captcha you on every page load. Have a dynamic IP from your ISP, they'll know about the new one with 30 minutes.
mirimir 7y ago
Maybe they used to. Tor Project does not recommend running even middle relays from home.
noident 7y ago
Hosting a bridge from home is safe. They're not in the global relay list so nobody knows which IP to block. Middle relays should be safe to host from home but unfortunately some overzealous 3rd party lists of "evil IPs" include them.
amelius 7y ago
Perhaps Tor should become an integral part of the TCP/IP stack. That way, exit nodes would simply be the destination nodes for every connection. (?)
- als0 7y ago
  I'm finding it difficult to understand what you're saying. You can already funnel all your traffic using a Tor SOCK proxy. So you don't need any changes to the TCP/IP stack to do what you seem to want. However, forwarding all your traffic increases the risk of fingerprinting, so you should give it careful consideration.
  - amelius 7y ago
    Let me clarify, because you are talking about something else. One of Tor's weaknesses is that you always need exit nodes, and running an exit node comes with certain risks. Now, what I'm saying is that if Tor was an integral part of the internet, then everybody would effectively be running exit nodes. The exit node and the destination node would be same thing. Government agencies wouldn't be able to take down exit nodes because that would mean they would have to take down the entire internet.

maeln 7y ago

Also, depending on the country, you can be hold responsible if someone use your exit node to do something illegal. As far as I remember, in France, you can get the same status as an ISP (don't remember the name though) to be able to run an exit node without being held responsible. But you will have to respect certain rules.