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Wow, these are some seriously racist comments.
by jcoffland 7y ago
Wow, these are some seriously racist comments.
- curiousgal 7y agoWelcome to HN where any China-related topic is treated with the same hostility.
- weberc2 7y agoIf this level of "hostility" offends you, please don't read the US-related topics.
- bpodgursky 7y agoChina is a country, with a different education system, which produces different outcomes and culture. Nobody is making any claim whatsoever about the behavior of Chinese-Americans or Chinese-Europeans. That would be racist.
- KoftaBob 7y agoWhat does race have to do with any of this? I'm discussing their government's economic and academic model. That's like saying criticism of America's healthcare system is racist against whites, because that's their majority ethnic group. If anything, it says a lot about you that you associated everything I said with their ethnicity rather than the government itself.
- IfOnlyYouKnew 7y agoThe term "racism" includes both race-based as well as ethnicity-based stereotyping. See, for example, Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism The idea of Chinese companies/universities/etc. being uncreative and over-reliant on imitation and industrial espionage is quite obviously a somewhat tired cliché. I'm certain it makes an appearance in almost every single front page comment threat on the Chinese economy of the last five years or so. There might even be a kernel of truth. But, as others have pointed out, the same was said of Japan and Taiwan before. In such a situation, you should be wary of repeating such stereotypes if you don't have first-hand experience, which I doubt many of those regurgitating that trope have.
- _vertigo 7y agoI'm not sure how race comes into it. We are talking about a single country, not a race. The original commenter even mentioned Japan and Korea as examples of countries that are different from China in this regard.
- ilikehurdles 7y agoIt is not an attack on a race of people. There is an SCMP article on the problematic atmosphere of cheating in Chinese schools [1], and dozens by Chinese contributors to large, mainstream publications. [1]:https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1974986/why-do-chinese-students-think-its-ok-cheat https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1974986...
- decebalus1 7y agoYou do realize that 'Chinese' is not a race, right?
- h3throw 7y agoChina, the country != Chinese (Asian?), the race
- TeMPOraL 7y agoNot only the comment is about a particular nation of people, "race" is essentially an Americanism at this point, and it's tiring to see attempts at coerce everything into a "race" problem.
- craftinator 7y agoNationalist comments, not racist.
- IfOnlyYouKnew 7y agoSee, that's the problem: "nationalism" is more about considering one's nation superior, which "racism" is about considering some other race/ethnicity/nationality inferior. As anyone willing to read the first paragraph on Wikipedia knows, "racism" includes ethnicity-based discrimination as well. But people will pretend not to know, meaning there really isn't a generally-accepted word for this concept. How convenient.
- decebalus1 7y agoChina has 56 ethnic groups. When you say something bad about China, you're talking about the nation. So if you want to play a card, it's either the nationalism or xenophobia card, but not the race card.
- avip 7y agoI'm not the one who called you a Mexican
- dang 7y agoThat comment was bad for taking the thread into nationalistic flamewar, but this comment is also bad for taking the thread further into flamewar. Please don't do that. The site guidelines specifically ask you not to: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html