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Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with anonymous posts/comments
- topmonk 7y agoieddit sounds quite close to idiot. You might want to change that (unless it was intended)
- rodolphoarruda 7y agoI would be willing to pay up to 10 usd per month to be able to create an account and run my news feed under my domain name.
- lettergram 7y agoI’m getting the error: > Too Many Requests: 60 per 1 minute I visited the site twice... It looks interesting, but I am curious what are the implications. I.e. how does everyone’s interactions change. Also seems kinda weird I have to login to be honest...
- cc-d 7y agoThis was re-submitted here when I was sleeping, and I was the only admin. I went to bed thinking my submission had not been noticed, leaving my site misconfigured thinking it did not matter. The technical issues and most of the offensive content has been taken care of.
- jonathankoren 7y agoHasn't the past 20 years shown that anonymous posts and comments are a perfect breeding ground for trolls?
- TylerE 7y agoSee: Voat
- kspacewalk2 7y agoYou're on a site where at least half the commenters are anonymous, and evidently the discussion level here is good enough for you to stay. Conversely, Facebook is not any less cancerous because they have a real name policy. So no, I'd say the least N years have not shown that.
- npo9 7y agoI think the most important aspect of a community is its members. Reddit, Facebook, etc have all tried hard to grow their communities and have reduced the quality of them as they increased the headcount. The best communities don’t strive for the hockey stick growth.
- throwaway1777 7y agoReddit and Facebook are not a single community, they are many communities some of which have a very high bar for quality, and some of which are a free for all that tends toward low quality memes and trolling.
- jcims 7y agoI found that removing any community of more than 100K subscribers from my reddit experience made it much more tolerable. In the old design you could go to /r/subredditname/comments and see an ordered list of comments regardless of which post they were associated with. It really livened things up and let you track the conversations going on given that there wern't that many new posts in a given day. That's gone with the new design unfortunately.
- Sharparam 7y agoYou can opt out of the new design and still access that. Example: https://old.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/ https://old.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/ I have disabled the new design entirely in my user preferences, so I get the old design even if I don't put "old" in the URL.
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- timemachine 7y agohttps://github.com/cc-d/ieddit https://github.com/cc-d/ieddit
- blondin 7y agocomments links are not working.
- jlarocco 7y agoI haven't used Reddit in a very long time, but does it not allow anonymous posts and comments any more? My account, at least, isn't tied to my real name or identity in any way, IIRC. Anyway, I'm not sure anonymity is a great feature. The lack of accountability is a good part of the reason why Reddit became such a cesspool.
- jdc 7y agoYou're mixing up anonymity and pseudonymity.
- icedchai 7y agoJust create a new throwaway account each time.
- el_dev_hell 7y agoThis used to be a lot easier. Now reddit doesn't let you create an account without an email (and most burner email tools are blocked like https://www.mailinator.com/ https://www.mailinator.com/.
- icedchai 7y agoActually it does. Just hit "next" when it prompts for an email. I just created another account 30 seconds ago, no email required.
- el_dev_hell 7y agoHuh.. Thanks for the tip!
- johndough 7y agoMy comments often don't show up when I don't verify an email address, which severely limits the use of anonymous accounts.
- Mirrorforce 7y agoI like the idea of having a website like reddit, similar functionality without the bloat. The new reddit design is horrible. The design on the site could be a little closer to this site perhaps.
- The_Androctonus 7y agohttps://old.reddit.com/ https://old.reddit.com/ This is how I still browse the site. You can also disable subreddit theming in your preferences and you’ve got a much more lite version of the site like the old days.
- pippy 7y agoHave you thought about making the data distributed and p2p? that way it's more resilient. Reddit at one stage was also minimalist and open source
- rolleiflex 7y agoI've made that, called Aether. https://getaether.net https://getaether.net (Source at github.com/nehbit/aether)
- icedchai 7y agoWhy don't we just bring back Usenet?
- deadbunny 7y agoTo be fair Reddit was basically Usenet in web form for the longest of time. Then they needed to make money.
- FreeTrade 7y agoConsider Member - https://memberapp.github.io/ https://memberapp.github.io/ It's got Reddit style functionality (HN style theme at present) with all content on the Bitcoin (BCH) blockchain.
- xvilka 7y agoWould be nice to have it written in Go, to be truly minimalist and for easy local deployment.
- Smithalicious 7y agoI think this "reddit-with-4chan-features" approach is more viable than 8chan's "4chan-with-reddit-features" approach, since I don't think the imageboard model is very compatible with the "community-run boards" feature. It's also a good thing that (it appears that) this website is "fresh" and apolitical rather than coming forth from a political rift in another community (e.g. 8chan, gab, voat). I'll definitely be following this website with interest; I'm a huge fan of sites that allow anonymous posting as well as how Reddit can create active communities around very niche topics (which is a lot harder on e.g. 4chan). EDIT: I do have some problems with this rule: "Nothing that violates US law, or anything that would be considered 'gray area'." What is a 'gray area' is, itself, a gray area. I don't think the rule itself needs changing, but it would be good if it was supported by some examples of things that people might want to do but you won't allow. EDIT2: Another issue: in a lot of fonts, Ieddit (with capital i) looks very similar to leddit (with lowercase L), which is a derogatory term for Reddit on 4chan (and possibly elsewhere) (owing to the shitty rageface memes which use the word "le")
- aeneasmackenzie 7y ago> It's also a good thing that (it appears that) this website is "fresh" and apolitical rather than coming forth from a political rift in another community (e.g. 8chan, gab, voat). Only one group likes image boards anyway, this won't matter.
- threwawasy1228 7y agoI think that the point of the gray area is to differentiate themselves from the kinds of things that went on at 8chan without getting banned. None of them were technically illegal but many were abhorrent regardless.
- cc-d 7y agoCorrect. Mainly loli/shota porn, and other forms of content that was borderline-cp.
- cc-d 7y ago>EDIT: I do have some problems with this rule: "Nothing that violates US law, or anything that would be considered 'gray area'." What is a 'gray area' is, itself, a gray area. I don't think the rule itself needs changing, but it would be good if it was supported by some examples of things that people might want to do but you won't allow. Loli/shota porn mainly. Other forms of borderline cp. The problem is, specifically stating 'hey don't upload THIS CONTENT', will result in people specifically uploading that content to buck the rules. I'll probably still add the clarification. The gray area clause allows operational leeway. >EDIT2: Another issue: in a lot of fonts, Ieddit (with capital i) looks very similar to leddit (with lowercase L), which is a derogatory term for Reddit on 4chan (and possibly elsewhere) (owing to the shitty rageface memes which use the word "le") I see a lot of people suggesting this. tbh I kind of like teh association with the "leddit" term, I find it amusing. From a ui perspective, the /i/ might make more sense though.
- nurettin 7y agoI like mastodon's way of marking "sensitive" content, which will hide text or pictures until you explicitly click to open them.
- acomagu 7y agoI read as "Leddit"
- wideasleep1 7y agoGreat name for a Zeppelin sub!
- Rotdhizon 7y agoAlmost every single action signs me out. Creating a sub gives back an 'invalid' error message', which then signs me out. Have clicked on less than 10 links and have already been exposed to bestiality images. This post in question has been up for half an hour, where is the moderation?
- cc-d 7y agoI am the only 'moderator' and I was asleep whenever this was re-submitted without me having any fore-warning. The technical errors are fixed now. I went to bed with the site reconfigured, not worrying too much because I thought this post was a dud.
- Aeolun 7y agoI am of the opinion this should represent subs as /i/all, instead of with /r/
- ddingus 7y agoSeconded
- undefinedFoo 7y agoyep, should use /i/ for subs instead of /r/ because the latter is, most of the time, associated with reddit.
- cc-d 7y agofrom a ui perspective, i think this is correct. the only issue will be losing familiarity for reddit users.
- markdown 7y agoI'm of the opinion that they should do away with that altogether. ieddit.com/foo instead of ieddit.com/[r/i]/foo
- radicalriddler 7y agoIs the site dead already?
- StudentStuff 7y agoThe name is very similar to lemmy with this font. Lemmy being the federated alternative to Reddit/HN: https://dev.lemmy.ml https://dev.lemmy.ml
- siquick 7y agoBased upon the first few posts, this probably isn't a great idea.
- cc-d 7y agoThis was re-submitted here when I was sleeping, and I was the only admin. I went to bed thinking my submission had not been noticed, leaving my site misconfigured thinking it did not matter. The technical issues and most of the offensive content has been taken care of.
- JohnJamesRambo 7y agoHow will you avoid- > John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory was proposed in the Penny Arcade (web comic) on March 19, 2004 by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. It says that when a normal person is allowed anonymity and an audience, they lose social inhibitions and act inappropriately. If anything, the last decade has taught us the immutability of this law. Usernames and comment history seem to help somewhat with people acting accountable for their actions. Total anonymity seems to always lead to a cesspool like 4chan.
- paulcole 7y agoYep just check out my comment history if you don’t believe it.
- dontbenebby 7y agoI think people are more toxic in private even if they're now willing to be semi-toxic in public. I say this as someone who was very good at research back when people didn't understand stuff like not using the same handle across sites, not using same email across sites, not giving out so much info the property of intersection narrows them down... it's amazing to see someone's public and what they think are private thoughts and how they contrast. I've kind of given up on total anonymity when saying anything of substance given advances in stylometry - anonymous receiving is solved, but speaking seems the real challenge.
- aeneasmackenzie 7y agoThis is limited: what about all the people who like the unique community that formed on anonymous imageboards? There's no posturing or attempts to build a reputation. You just throw out your piece and it stands alone.
- cc-d 7y agoAgreed. With psuedoanonymous sites like reddit it's trivial to be anonymous anyway by rotating alt-accounts. This just streamlines the process.
- djsumdog 7y ago
- chillacy 7y agoI actually think these are compelling features: * Fully Transparent Mod/Admin Action Logs <- This is evidenced by the fact that on reddit mod drama sparks up every so often * Anonymous Posting Option <- The fact that people make throwaways indicates that they desire anonymity sometimes My next question though is what stops reddit from implementing them?
- slig 7y ago> My next question though is what stops reddit from implementing them? They're never going to implement the anonymous posting. They used to let users register without providing an email, since the new redesign it's required.
- woutr_be 7y ago> They're never going to implement the anonymous posting. They used to let users register without providing an email, since the new redesign it's required. As far as I know, it's still not required. When you're at the signup popup and it's asking for your email, just click next. It's not a required field.
- iikoolpp 7y ago> Anonymous /r/beastiality 6h > Dogs knotting women (www.com) Really, who expected anything else?
- tzs 7y ago...and there is no /r/bestiality. Come on, people...if you are going to make a forum for your interests, at least learn to spell the name of those interests. The word comes from the Latin word bestia.
- duxup 7y agoI like the idea of anonymous posting and at the same time on Reddit I've found challenges with brand new accounts with agendas showing up en mass with little regard for the local community and just wanting to push their agenda. It's a rough thing to allow anonymous comments and also foster a community online.
- burnout41 7y agoThree clicks in and I see a picture of a dog fucking a woman.
- cc-d 7y agoThis was re-submitted here when I was sleeping, and I was the only admin. I went to bed thinking my submission had not been noticed, leaving my site misconfigured thinking it did not matter. The technical issues and most of the offensive content has been taken care of.
- Figs 7y agoThe name 'ieddit' is way too close to 'reddit' and should be changed to avoid trademark issues.
- floatingatoll 7y agoPatreon’s URL for reporting community guidelines violations is here: https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/requests/new https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/requests/new Those guidelines are here for anyone who is curious: https://www.patreon.com/policy/guidelines https://www.patreon.com/policy/guidelines
- whenchamenia 7y agoHow is this relevant? The project does not seem to be violating any guidelines. Are you suggesting an illegal and unethical reporting of a sites donated income because you don't agree with it on a publicly indexed forum? If so, thats really messed up.
- floatingatoll 7y ago"Illegal"?
- Multicomp 7y agoLooks like this is getting a lot of HN hug of death. Let the username landgrab begin. Apparently they are called SubEddits instead of Subreddits? Not much in the way of r/android or similar but time will tell if this lasts or vanishes. Seems nice enough so far.
- comnetxr 7y agoI had an idea for a minimal change to improve a Reddit-like site, perhaps you will find it interesting: split the concept of "subreddit" into "tags" and "communities". Tags: much of the content of Reddit is people reposting the same thing at various times to various subreddits, and many of the comments are people noticing that it fits into "r/whatever" instead. The default behavior should be that posts of the same link to various tags (r/awww, r/catsstandingup) should not recreate a new post but just backlink to the same post. Repeat posts to the same tag should be a no-operation. This removes the community aspect of tags, and some of the worst emergent behaviors of reddit along with it. Treating a tag as both a topic and a community leads to a neverending cycle of people creating niche topic tags for the community aspect, but then finding themselves "invaded" as people will always want to find and comment on content about topics that they disagree with. But of course the community aspect of Reddit leads to good things. So you make a separate concept of communities. These communities could follow the posts of one or more tags, applying filters to those of their own choosing, and make their discussion visible within community borders only or visible to all, based on their own choices (in addition to internal community posts.) They can control admission to the communities on their own rules (fully public, invite codes only, etc.) The ability to automatically follow the posts of certain tags (and either view or not view public comments) will keep small communities from getting stale for lack of posts.
- DEADBEEFC0FFEE 7y agoI think you just read the reinvented Delicious.
- woadwarrior01 7y agoI’d once built a Reddit with tags (or a Delicious with votes) 12 years ago. Never really took off and I shuttered it after 2 years.
- DEADBEEFC0FFEE 7y agoI think that could be useful in a corporate environment. Did folk pollute the tags with nonsense?
- aks579 7y agoNice
- known 7y agoHow do you make sure that anonymity is not abused?
- clord 7y agohow do you make sure that identity is not abused?
- cc-d 7y agoyes hello site's creator here there were a ton of technical issues earlier that are now 'mostly' fixed in terms of the nsfw content, the index page is basically /r/all without nsfw. marking something as nsfw in a sfw sub hides the thumbnail. this was posted here while i was sleeping... i went to bed thinking nobody had noticed my previous post and wasn't being attentive. the original post i made to Show Hn was 15 hours ago... I'm guessing a mod 'refreshed' this?
- Eleopteryx 7y ago>yes hello site's creator here I like your way of greeting
- HNLurker2 7y agoFor chan
- FrozenVoid 7y agoHow are you going to prevent your reddit clone website being overrun with lowest-common-denominator content? i.e. how you will maintain quality long-term, after the initial rush of novelty wears off.
- orionblastar 7y agoHow do you avoid becoming like other Rediit clones like Notabug http://notabug.io/ http://notabug.io/ where you get toxic posts and comments? You give people anonymous access and they show their dark sides.
- jhasse 7y agoWhy not use an existing (well-tested) code base like Postmill https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill ?
- ksahin 7y agoThere's something weird when I create a post. When I search existing subs, (for example programming) it doesn't seem to work. Am I doing something wrong or is it a bug?
- bArray 7y agoFor a site focused on transparency and privacy, it's parked behind CloudFlare. I can't view the site past the about page without JS enabled and allowing CloudFlare to probe and track me. > Decentralized platforms are not an ideal solution for > internet communities. Hard disagree. Communities are about give and take, the early internet was driven by people hosting bulletin boards, IRC servers, web servers, etc. There are people out there still willing to be part of the solution if you give them the chance. > TOR is also not an answer, the technical barrier in > accessing hidden services alone disqualifies them as a > practical alternative, before even considering the > bandwidth/latency limitations. TOR is plug-and-play these days, although using TOR effectively requires a change in mind-set, both for the server owners and users of such servers. > As seen with youtube, reddit, &c. With transparency and > accountability, and without a significant profit incentive > to do otherwise, the model still works. Servers, time and expertise usually cost money. Staff running the show need to put food on their tables one way or another - there will always be a financial incentive. Unless, of course, you reduce running costs to near zero.
- cc-d 7y ago>For a site focused on transparency and privacy, it's parked behind CloudFlare. I can't view the site past the about page without JS enabled and allowing CloudFlare to probe and track me. Unfortunately I have no choice in this regard. I do no have the means to resist any sort of ddos. I remember at one point you could set the 'cloudflare security level' to low, but when I looked in the UI today I could not find such an option. If there exists a solution to either not using cloudflare, or some option hidden away that allows me to tell clouflare o fuck off with how it treats traffic, I'd love to know.
- bArray 7y ago> If there exists a solution to either not using cloudflare, > or some option hidden away that allows me to tell clouflare > o fuck off with how it treats traffic, I'd love to know. The method I use to avoid CloudFlare altogether (probably wrong as it's bespoke) is to do the following before "handling" the request: * Store all connecting IPs, last request time and the rate at which requests are being made in a serviced-buffer. If the request rate becomes too high, give them a timeout (return a very small page telling them to come back in a few minutes). * If database hits are high, drop non-important requests first, starting with views, then up/down votes, comments and then user security. Views and votes can fail silently and most people won't be any of the wiser. * If static content requests are high, drop generated content first, followed by large files (all JS, most CSS, images, etc). For the generated content, you can use a recently generic cached view. * Lastly, if all else fails, just return a redirect to some static server hosted somewhere strong (like GitHub pages for example), explaining that demand is high at this current time. This approach has worked for me so far. Under high load, you need to handle requests as soon as possible, even if it means not returning something. Holding onto a connection is what will sink your ship. In general most sites seem to die because they spend too long dealing with individual requests. especially when the database is hit. As soon as you overload a WordPress database for example, it's screwed. And this is just for displaying content to the website!
- kitd 7y agoTotal anonymity is the fastest way to get law enforcement on your back IME, unless you enjoy spending your day dealing with takedowns.
- fyskij 7y agoNice work! I really like the UI and the concept. I got excited by your post because I'm building a reddit-clone too. It's called Dinomia and it's a just-for-fun concept with a transaction system. Each time you upvote something an "upvote / credit" is transferred from you to the author of the post, like sending money. When you create a post/comment/community you loose X "upvote/credits" etc. I hope Ieddit has great success and congratulations again for the work you have done.
- gallexme 7y agoAre emails visible to others users? (nice to know before u fill it out for possible password recovery)
- lowiqprogrammer 7y agoReally nice, I appreciate that you don't use Google's ReCaptcha. Some suggestions if you're targeting privacy, remove third party assets and remove all JavaScript and add a Tor hidden service. People who are obsessed with privacy will run NoScript a lot of time.
- whenchamenia 7y agoAgreed. NoCaptcha is a red falg to me as a user that usability has taken a backseat to ease of administration.
- thrownaway954 7y agoGood luck with moderating this thing. Everyone bitches and moans about Reddit, but the fact of the matter is that sites like Reddit cost a ton to keep up and running and without some sort of revenue, they go down. Without some sort of regulation, sites QUICKLY divulge into a collection of scrupulous and illegal activities, and become blacklisted from advertisers. I get how everyone wants a community that they can posts and share things anonymously, but the fact of the matter is that unless you have unlimited money where you can fight legal battles and absorb the cost of running it yourself, at some point you are going to need outside resources to keep the thing online and that comes in forms of donations or advertising.
- namanyayg 7y agoI wonder if there's some way to do it in a decentralised way? But that'd be susceptible to 51%-esque attacks too, and no one wants to provide resources for the site. I think we're gonna be stuck with shitty walled censored communities for a while. At least there's hn?
- thrownaway954 7y ago"I wonder if there's some way to do it in a decentralized way" - Everyone has that same thought until it's put into practice and you find yourself hosting stuff "from the community" that can get you dragged into court or prison. BTW... if you think "the community" is going to come together and help you through the financial and legal hardships you will be sorely mistaken. They will just pack up and move on to the next thing and you will be let to fend for yourself.
- chongli 7y agoMaybe this is an opportunity to use machine learning to filter this stuff out? It could be done on the client side for every user connecting to the network. That way each user would have control over what comes into their machine, rather than just being an open dropbox. You could also force everything to be plaintext and just block anything encrypted or in an unrecognized file format.
- olah_1 7y agoNow if only Ieddit, Tildes, Lobsters, Hacker News, Voat, and NotABug would all federate with each other like Lemmy[1] and Prismo[2]. [1]: https://github.com/dessalines/lemmy https://github.com/dessalines/lemmy [2]: https://gitlab.com/prismosuite/prismo https://gitlab.com/prismosuite/prismo
- ZoomZoomZoom 7y agoSorry, but I can't register as my perfectly reasonable name (although, quite long, but < 30 ASCII characters) declined as invalid.
- danjac 7y agoLooking at the code base, it doesn't look like there's any CSRF protection in place. Not sure what other security issues there are but I'd be careful about using this. You probably want some tests in there as well. Overall looks like a promising project but you might have rushed to get something in front of people when a bit more polish would have made a better first impression.
- Panoramic 7y agoJust don't let it be like Voat...
- AudioBookKing 7y agoGreat work, Please keep this going!