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How is it 'user stupidity' when customers are using a feature as it is advertised, especially since the distances traveled are absolutely trivial?

gambiting 7y ago
The car only moves forward as long as you hold a button on your phone - as soon as you let go it stops. You are supposed to observe the car moving at all times. So logically, if you see that the car is about to collide with something, you let go of the button and the car stops. What else is it if not user error then?
- barrkel 7y ago
  Most parking involves one or the other end of the vehicle being close to something else. How do you stop in time if it starts out going the wrong way? That sounds like the issue with the chap who tried it in his driveway. (My feeling is that if the feature isn't more reliable than a 95th percentile human for the subset of functionality, it probably shouldn't be released.)
- pdkl95 7y ago
  > if you see that the car is about to collide with something What about when the car is about to collide with something you cannot see from a remote point of view, or when the positions and/or velocities are distorted from the longer perspective? There are many common situations where hazards that would usually be visible from the driver's seat are obscured when looking at the car from a distance. Also, people generally have to be trained and pass a test demonstrating basic competency at driving and pass a vision test. These tests don't include the slightly different skills/vision required to safely judge driving a car from a distance, so why would you assume a licensed driver is even capable of operating dangerous machinery to do something outside the scope of that license?
  - pbhjpbhj 7y ago
    If you can't see enough to know if your car is going to crash maybe you should not drive it [ie don't tell it that it's safe to continue]?!
- dhdjdkd 7y ago
  How can you gauge approach angles properly from outside the cabin. It’s bs
  - gambiting 7y ago
    If you can't then you shouldn't be using this feature, simple.
    - dhdjdkd 7y ago
      You’re eyes are a couple inches apart. There are geometric limits to our ability to perceive depth and therefore angles. You can’t, I can’t, no can perceive angles appropriately from outside the car at distances that keeps the feature safe and makes the feature useful (50 yards out)

gambiting 7y ago

The car only moves forward as long as you hold a button on your phone - as soon as you let go it stops. You are supposed to observe the car moving at all times. So logically, if you see that the car is about to collide with something, you let go of the button and the car stops. What else is it if not user error then?

barrkel 7y ago
Most parking involves one or the other end of the vehicle being close to something else. How do you stop in time if it starts out going the wrong way? That sounds like the issue with the chap who tried it in his driveway. (My feeling is that if the feature isn't more reliable than a 95th percentile human for the subset of functionality, it probably shouldn't be released.)
pdkl95 7y ago
> if you see that the car is about to collide with something What about when the car is about to collide with something you cannot see from a remote point of view, or when the positions and/or velocities are distorted from the longer perspective? There are many common situations where hazards that would usually be visible from the driver's seat are obscured when looking at the car from a distance. Also, people generally have to be trained and pass a test demonstrating basic competency at driving and pass a vision test. These tests don't include the slightly different skills/vision required to safely judge driving a car from a distance, so why would you assume a licensed driver is even capable of operating dangerous machinery to do something outside the scope of that license?
- pbhjpbhj 7y ago
  If you can't see enough to know if your car is going to crash maybe you should not drive it [ie don't tell it that it's safe to continue]?!
dhdjdkd 7y ago
How can you gauge approach angles properly from outside the cabin. It’s bs
- gambiting 7y ago
  If you can't then you shouldn't be using this feature, simple.
  - dhdjdkd 7y ago
    You’re eyes are a couple inches apart. There are geometric limits to our ability to perceive depth and therefore angles. You can’t, I can’t, no can perceive angles appropriately from outside the car at distances that keeps the feature safe and makes the feature useful (50 yards out)