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iPhone X is still very capable and not at all old. Is it the newest? No, but saying a two year old device is useless is disingenuous.

orev 7y ago
I did not say an X was useless, so you’re the one being disingenuous. I said it was old, which it is, and old things do not make big headlines or attract large crowds. The X is already 2 years old. It doesn’t matter that it’s still a capable phone (using one to write this now). The heyday of jailbreaking was when Apple would release a new phone, and then the tech press watched with baited breath to see how quickly it would be hacked. It only took weeks or months, not years, and it was a collective, community effort. It made news and it stirred up a large interest in jailbreaking and the ecosystem around it. You clearly have not looked at the state of the jailbreak community as it stands today. It’s essentially gone. Repos are filled with old junk that couldn’t run on modern OSes even if you wanted to, and the main developers have just left. And there’s no reason for them to come back. The App Store and the current iOS features cover almost everything that people need, and the effort to get the other little things is just too high. As I said, this is interesting and possibly useful academically, but it’s not going to magically reinvigorate the jailbreak community.
- topranks 7y ago
  I think there is a lot of sense in your argument. Also worth remembering Apple have added so many features we once Jailbroke for, which makes the usefulness less for the average person. Still though I think this will help the JB scene. It’s unlikely it won’t spur at least some new interest and momentum in the scene though. I mostly jailbreak for shell access and ability to see what the network stack is doing (related to my work,) but a few tweaks like SwipeSelection are great additions too.
- seba_dos1 7y ago
  I think that people are arguing, and I agree, that "2 years old" doesn't qualify in any way as "old". I'm using a 10 years old smartphone and a 6 years old laptop, and only in last year or two I started to consider that oldish, so I'll probably replace them soon. Also, iOS is genuinely uninteresting for many people because of its locked down nature. There are whole categories of applications that won't ever pass through App Store gates. Heck, we're talking about a platform where you can't even have a different browser than what Apple provides - you can just switch browser shells. Jailbreaking definitely can bring a huge value to at least some people.
- givinguflac 7y ago
  I'm an active member of the jb community and it's certainly not gone. A quick look at /r/jailbreak shows that this exploit has in fact reinvigorated not only the community but many old developers that had not been around recently. I'm not sure why you want to argue but ok buddy. Have a good day.

orev 7y ago

I did not say an X was useless, so you’re the one being disingenuous. I said it was old, which it is, and old things do not make big headlines or attract large crowds. The X is already 2 years old. It doesn’t matter that it’s still a capable phone (using one to write this now). The heyday of jailbreaking was when Apple would release a new phone, and then the tech press watched with baited breath to see how quickly it would be hacked. It only took weeks or months, not years, and it was a collective, community effort. It made news and it stirred up a large interest in jailbreaking and the ecosystem around it. You clearly have not looked at the state of the jailbreak community as it stands today. It’s essentially gone. Repos are filled with old junk that couldn’t run on modern OSes even if you wanted to, and the main developers have just left. And there’s no reason for them to come back. The App Store and the current iOS features cover almost everything that people need, and the effort to get the other little things is just too high. As I said, this is interesting and possibly useful academically, but it’s not going to magically reinvigorate the jailbreak community.

topranks 7y ago
I think there is a lot of sense in your argument. Also worth remembering Apple have added so many features we once Jailbroke for, which makes the usefulness less for the average person. Still though I think this will help the JB scene. It’s unlikely it won’t spur at least some new interest and momentum in the scene though. I mostly jailbreak for shell access and ability to see what the network stack is doing (related to my work,) but a few tweaks like SwipeSelection are great additions too.
seba_dos1 7y ago
I think that people are arguing, and I agree, that "2 years old" doesn't qualify in any way as "old". I'm using a 10 years old smartphone and a 6 years old laptop, and only in last year or two I started to consider that oldish, so I'll probably replace them soon. Also, iOS is genuinely uninteresting for many people because of its locked down nature. There are whole categories of applications that won't ever pass through App Store gates. Heck, we're talking about a platform where you can't even have a different browser than what Apple provides - you can just switch browser shells. Jailbreaking definitely can bring a huge value to at least some people.
givinguflac 7y ago
I'm an active member of the jb community and it's certainly not gone. A quick look at /r/jailbreak shows that this exploit has in fact reinvigorated not only the community but many old developers that had not been around recently. I'm not sure why you want to argue but ok buddy. Have a good day.