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Doesn't matter what metaphor you chose - he was fired for the wrong reasons. To exaggerate: if Trump were found to be helping out a Mexican immigrant, and after

Doesn't matter what metaphor you chose - he was fired for the wrong reasons. To exaggerate: if Trump were found to be helping out a Mexican immigrant, and after the huge scandal with his voter base he'd get impeached - I wouldn't celebrate, at all. Regardless what you think of him, a man needs to pay for his bad deeds, not for the good or neutral ones that just happened in the wrong political climate.

pseudalopex 7y ago
He wasn't fired. He resigned under pressure. He cited "a series of misunderstandings and mischaracterizations", not a single incident.
- virgilp 7y ago
  That's just semantics, you know that, right?
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  - lomnakkus 7y ago
    Parent poster explicitly said "under pressure". What more do you want?
    - virgilp 7y ago
      Really? What's the difference between "fired" and "resigned under pressure"? How does it change one bit my original argument? In this instance, RMS was innocent. Doesn't matter if he was guilty in 999999 other instances(1), he was under immense pressure to resign _for this incident_. What happened to the US philosophy of freedom and liberty that inspired an entire world? I feel like it's completely gone now, they easily sacrifice what were formerly sacred principles, for well-intended but completely misguided reasons. > It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished. But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, 'whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,' and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever. (1) Which is yet to be proven, btw. We shouldn't take destroying a man's reputation so lightly. But well, what do I know. The mob must enjoy its victories, even when they're really defeats.
  - imtringued 7y ago
    He resigned from two independent organizations at the same time. Imagine if your previous boss told you to quit your job.
- soulofmischief 7y ago
  C'mon. Don't bend to falsehoods when it suits your argument. Very few people in such PR nightmares actually "resign", they're just allowed to save face by the company.
  - pseudalopex 7y ago
    I said he resigned under pressure. I think MIT would have fired him but not the FSF. My argument is that he was pressured because of more than just one incident.
- hdfbdtbcdg 7y ago
  People are never fired from such positions they are asked to resign. Trying to repaint this as him willingly stepping down is ignorant at best and disingenuous at worst.

pseudalopex 7y ago

He wasn't fired. He resigned under pressure. He cited "a series of misunderstandings and mischaracterizations", not a single incident.

virgilp 7y ago
That's just semantics, you know that, right?
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- lomnakkus 7y ago
  Parent poster explicitly said "under pressure". What more do you want?
  - virgilp 7y ago
    Really? What's the difference between "fired" and "resigned under pressure"? How does it change one bit my original argument? In this instance, RMS was innocent. Doesn't matter if he was guilty in 999999 other instances(1), he was under immense pressure to resign _for this incident_. What happened to the US philosophy of freedom and liberty that inspired an entire world? I feel like it's completely gone now, they easily sacrifice what were formerly sacred principles, for well-intended but completely misguided reasons. > It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished. But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, 'whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,' and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever. (1) Which is yet to be proven, btw. We shouldn't take destroying a man's reputation so lightly. But well, what do I know. The mob must enjoy its victories, even when they're really defeats.
- imtringued 7y ago
  He resigned from two independent organizations at the same time. Imagine if your previous boss told you to quit your job.
soulofmischief 7y ago
C'mon. Don't bend to falsehoods when it suits your argument. Very few people in such PR nightmares actually "resign", they're just allowed to save face by the company.
- pseudalopex 7y ago
  I said he resigned under pressure. I think MIT would have fired him but not the FSF. My argument is that he was pressured because of more than just one incident.
hdfbdtbcdg 7y ago
People are never fired from such positions they are asked to resign. Trying to repaint this as him willingly stepping down is ignorant at best and disingenuous at worst.