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> Yeah so I don't care about the blutooth because my car DRIVES ITSELF a big percent of the time. See, this worries me. Almost all of the Model 3 owners I know

> Yeah so I don't care about the blutooth because my car DRIVES ITSELF a big percent of the time. See, this worries me. Almost all of the Model 3 owners I know tell me that not supporting bluetooth features isn't a big deal because they can safely use their phone while driving. This is completely false. When I last drove in a friend's Model 3 he had to make several manual corrections while using auto pilot on California highways; it's still not good enough for people to be messing with their phone while driving. Please, don't use your phone while driving.

kemiller 7y ago
I don’t think that was the implication. It’s that Tesla is focused on hitting the high order bits and so has earned a little forgiveness about smaller things.
- tw04 7y ago
  But they aren't. The car doesn't drive itself yet and you shouldn't pretend it does unless you want to die. Other than performance and range they haven't hit on ANY of the high order bits.
  - leesec 7y ago
    Haha well, maybe your car doesn't drive itself. Mine does everyday, it's great. Also Teslas are the safest cars. Not sure what you're talking about
    - BinaryIdiot 7y ago
      > Also Teslas are the safest cars. Not sure what you're talking about In other words being on your phone isn't a big deal because you'll be safe. But those other people you might hit? What about them? Do you have any care in that direction?
    - RealWorldPolice 7y ago
      I don't believe you. I own an AP1 Tesla as well as a nominally "FSD computer equipped" AP2 Tesla. You would be injured or killed if you tried taking an unmonitored trip of any reasonable length - ON THE HIGHWAY - in either, with autopilot on and with the nag disabled using a weight. If you think you don't have to routinely make manual corrections to save yourself from dying I think you are either lying or delusional.
      - xedeon 7y ago
        You're stretching quite a bit here...None of the things you said were implied by the previous poster. > If you think you don't have to routinely make manual corrections to save yourself from dying I think you are either lying or delusional. What makes you think owners are not aware of this? Try asking that question on the /r/rteslamotors subreddit and you'll see that owners will quickly educate you and tell you to keep your eyes on the road. You also get a visual warning to do so, whenever you engage Autopilot.
        RealWorldPolice 7y ago
        Stretching what, exactly? They said their car drives itself every day. "Drives itself" means that the car does all of the work of driving without requiring human intervention or involvement. And that technology, of course, does not exist in any car at the moment. What else could "drives itself" possibly mean?

kemiller 7y ago

I don’t think that was the implication. It’s that Tesla is focused on hitting the high order bits and so has earned a little forgiveness about smaller things.

tw04 7y ago
But they aren't. The car doesn't drive itself yet and you shouldn't pretend it does unless you want to die. Other than performance and range they haven't hit on ANY of the high order bits.
- leesec 7y ago
  Haha well, maybe your car doesn't drive itself. Mine does everyday, it's great. Also Teslas are the safest cars. Not sure what you're talking about
  - BinaryIdiot 7y ago
    > Also Teslas are the safest cars. Not sure what you're talking about In other words being on your phone isn't a big deal because you'll be safe. But those other people you might hit? What about them? Do you have any care in that direction?
  - RealWorldPolice 7y ago
    I don't believe you. I own an AP1 Tesla as well as a nominally "FSD computer equipped" AP2 Tesla. You would be injured or killed if you tried taking an unmonitored trip of any reasonable length - ON THE HIGHWAY - in either, with autopilot on and with the nag disabled using a weight. If you think you don't have to routinely make manual corrections to save yourself from dying I think you are either lying or delusional.
    - xedeon 7y ago
      You're stretching quite a bit here...None of the things you said were implied by the previous poster. > If you think you don't have to routinely make manual corrections to save yourself from dying I think you are either lying or delusional. What makes you think owners are not aware of this? Try asking that question on the /r/rteslamotors subreddit and you'll see that owners will quickly educate you and tell you to keep your eyes on the road. You also get a visual warning to do so, whenever you engage Autopilot.
      - RealWorldPolice 7y ago
        Stretching what, exactly? They said their car drives itself every day. "Drives itself" means that the car does all of the work of driving without requiring human intervention or involvement. And that technology, of course, does not exist in any car at the moment. What else could "drives itself" possibly mean?