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I would hope that a country with the largest military industrial complex in the world can hack a group of camel herders in a desert. Doesn't seem particularly i

I would hope that a country with the largest military industrial complex in the world can hack a group of camel herders in a desert. Doesn't seem particularly impressive

StreamBright 7y ago
Also since they supplied equipment to them it would not have been as difficult to trojan it.
- bpodgursky 7y ago
  The US support of Syrian "moderate" rebels was stupid, shortsighted, and pretended that the world was a different place. And I will infinitely fault the Obama administration for providing technology which immediately fell into jihadist hands, which any reasonable analyst would have told them would happen. But it's not accurate to say the US 'supplied' equipment to ISIS. ISIS stole it.
  - will4274 7y ago
    If it was what "any reasonable analyst would have told them would happen," why isn't it reasonable to assume that was the intention? Governments aren't single level actors - they are occasionally capable of subtlety - saying one thing even when intending another.
    - cc81 7y ago
      Did they even get any significant amount of advanced gear that way? Most heavy things they got from looting Iraqi military.
    - bpodgursky 7y ago
      I am not going to debate why "Obama secretly supported ISIS" is stupid. It's stupid, and if you think it's plausible, you need to honestly evaluate whether your news sources are informing you or peddling a narrative with an objective.
      - booboolayla 7y ago
        Would you perhaps be willing to debate the fact that ISIS grew their territory to the size of Belgium, enslaved thousands in Syria, and executed a number of high profile terrorist attacks in Western Europe - all during Obama's 8 years in office? Then Trump comes in and ISIS all but collapses within a year. Let's debate how can this happen without "willful incompetence".
rootsudo 7y ago
Basically shared my same sentiments. One group isn't even trying the other is fully reactive and trying to uncover how much the other groups know. USA always will win.
srbby 7y ago
Camel herders in a desert assisted by Israel, one of the most technologically advanced countries.
blacksmith_tb 7y ago
Bit crudely put, but it hasn't been the case that the US military has easily trounced small guerilla forces in ground combat (e.g. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Somali, etc.), so I assume the idea was to suggest that cyberwarfare works better?
asynch8 7y ago
It's not a group of camel herders in the desert in regards to their cybersec team. They managed to recruit TriCk/Junaid Hussein(associated with TeaMp0isoN), to be their teamleader. TeaMp0ison were fairly well-known(at the time at least) and actually quite talented hackers. He was later killed in a dronestrike.
zaphirplane 7y ago
Is the racism critical to expressing your view. I understand those terrorist are horrible evil people and inflicted pain and death on innocent people. Your racist comment is grounded in racism towards Arabs and Muslims. Most victims of ISIS are physically near them

I would hope that a country with the largest military industrial complex in the world can hack a group of camel herders in a desert. Doesn't seem particularly impressive

StreamBright 7y ago

Also since they supplied equipment to them it would not have been as difficult to trojan it.

bpodgursky 7y ago
The US support of Syrian "moderate" rebels was stupid, shortsighted, and pretended that the world was a different place. And I will infinitely fault the Obama administration for providing technology which immediately fell into jihadist hands, which any reasonable analyst would have told them would happen. But it's not accurate to say the US 'supplied' equipment to ISIS. ISIS stole it.
- will4274 7y ago
  If it was what "any reasonable analyst would have told them would happen," why isn't it reasonable to assume that was the intention? Governments aren't single level actors - they are occasionally capable of subtlety - saying one thing even when intending another.
  - cc81 7y ago
    Did they even get any significant amount of advanced gear that way? Most heavy things they got from looting Iraqi military.
  - bpodgursky 7y ago
    I am not going to debate why "Obama secretly supported ISIS" is stupid. It's stupid, and if you think it's plausible, you need to honestly evaluate whether your news sources are informing you or peddling a narrative with an objective.
    - booboolayla 7y ago
      Would you perhaps be willing to debate the fact that ISIS grew their territory to the size of Belgium, enslaved thousands in Syria, and executed a number of high profile terrorist attacks in Western Europe - all during Obama's 8 years in office? Then Trump comes in and ISIS all but collapses within a year. Let's debate how can this happen without "willful incompetence".

rootsudo 7y ago

Basically shared my same sentiments. One group isn't even trying the other is fully reactive and trying to uncover how much the other groups know. USA always will win.

srbby 7y ago

Camel herders in a desert assisted by Israel, one of the most technologically advanced countries.

blacksmith_tb 7y ago

Bit crudely put, but it hasn't been the case that the US military has easily trounced small guerilla forces in ground combat (e.g. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Somali, etc.), so I assume the idea was to suggest that cyberwarfare works better?

asynch8 7y ago

It's not a group of camel herders in the desert in regards to their cybersec team. They managed to recruit TriCk/Junaid Hussein(associated with TeaMp0isoN), to be their teamleader. TeaMp0ison were fairly well-known(at the time at least) and actually quite talented hackers. He was later killed in a dronestrike.

zaphirplane 7y ago

Is the racism critical to expressing your view. I understand those terrorist are horrible evil people and inflicted pain and death on innocent people. Your racist comment is grounded in racism towards Arabs and Muslims. Most victims of ISIS are physically near them