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Why is this flagged+dead?

prometheus76 7y ago
Because people who say they believe in science have a really hard time accepting the cognitive dissonance that arises when science contradicts their beliefs. Windows shutdown sound plays and they flag it.
- rinchik 7y ago
  > Because people who say they believe in science have a really hard time accepting the cognitive dissonance that arises when science contradicts their beliefs Exactly this. And it's fascinating and educational to observe. I wouldn't recommend to intervene though, just make an observation and move on.
- t0astbread 7y ago
  Oh right, I forgot flagging is done by the community. Addendum: I can kinda understand it though. While research like this might be correct and is definitely important, it can make it sound like "all men" or "all women" think this way, to some extent, making those who are different feel invalid. (Maybe a bit of a personal topic but I'm currently thinking a lot about my gender and identity and stuff like this is kinda making me scared.) Additionally, to some this might make it seem like it's not worth welcoming diversity in tech. (Which is also not true IMO.)
  - dekhn 7y ago
    If something is true, but unwelcoming, should it be suppressed (I've heard multiple opinions on this; being a fan of free speech, I believe even unwelcoming and uncomfortable facts need to be heard)?
    - t0astbread 7y ago
      No, of course not. I'm not saying it's a good reaction but I can understand why some people might react like that to this topic.
  - commandlinefan 7y ago
    > not worth welcoming diversity in tech. It doesn’t even suggest that. It just suggests that, no matter how many initiatives you put into place, you’re never going to be able to achieve demographic “purity”.
    - t0astbread 7y ago
      I know. I'm saying it may sound like that to some people causing a knee jerk reaction of denial.
bryanlarsen 7y ago
Personally, I flag articles which provoke garbage conversations. It might be a great article, but if HN isn't mature enough to comment productively, it doesn't belong on HN. I didn't flag this one, because the comments haven't derailed yet.
- bassman9000 7y ago
  Wouldn't it be better to flag the people that make the discussion garbage, instead of the article? You can flag comments too
  - bryanlarsen 7y ago
    Garbage conversations often result when each side is saying reasonable things in isolation but are just talking at each other rather than actually conversing.

Because people who say they believe in science have a really hard time accepting the cognitive dissonance that arises when science contradicts their beliefs. Windows shutdown sound plays and they flag it.

rinchik 7y ago
> Because people who say they believe in science have a really hard time accepting the cognitive dissonance that arises when science contradicts their beliefs Exactly this. And it's fascinating and educational to observe. I wouldn't recommend to intervene though, just make an observation and move on.
t0astbread 7y ago
Oh right, I forgot flagging is done by the community. Addendum: I can kinda understand it though. While research like this might be correct and is definitely important, it can make it sound like "all men" or "all women" think this way, to some extent, making those who are different feel invalid. (Maybe a bit of a personal topic but I'm currently thinking a lot about my gender and identity and stuff like this is kinda making me scared.) Additionally, to some this might make it seem like it's not worth welcoming diversity in tech. (Which is also not true IMO.)
- dekhn 7y ago
  If something is true, but unwelcoming, should it be suppressed (I've heard multiple opinions on this; being a fan of free speech, I believe even unwelcoming and uncomfortable facts need to be heard)?
  - t0astbread 7y ago
    No, of course not. I'm not saying it's a good reaction but I can understand why some people might react like that to this topic.
- commandlinefan 7y ago
  > not worth welcoming diversity in tech. It doesn’t even suggest that. It just suggests that, no matter how many initiatives you put into place, you’re never going to be able to achieve demographic “purity”.
  - t0astbread 7y ago
    I know. I'm saying it may sound like that to some people causing a knee jerk reaction of denial.

bryanlarsen 7y ago

Personally, I flag articles which provoke garbage conversations. It might be a great article, but if HN isn't mature enough to comment productively, it doesn't belong on HN. I didn't flag this one, because the comments haven't derailed yet.

bassman9000 7y ago
Wouldn't it be better to flag the people that make the discussion garbage, instead of the article? You can flag comments too
- bryanlarsen 7y ago
  Garbage conversations often result when each side is saying reasonable things in isolation but are just talking at each other rather than actually conversing.