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I don't get why people play devil's advocate in defense of scummy behavior by tech companies. Every shitty thing they do should be called out, exposed and cond

by soup10 7y ago

I don't get why people play devil's advocate in defense of scummy behavior by tech companies. Every shitty thing they do should be called out, exposed and condemned. If they know they don't have public support or defenders they will be better behaved.

joe_the_user 7y ago
I don't get why people play devil's advocate in defense of scummy behavior by tech companies. "Scummy behavior" is dumping poison in rivers or working people 90 hours a week. Normal competition is large companies putting smaller companies out of business through greater leverage. I don't care about a random small company getting rewarded for its random innovations. Why should I? The smaller company would probably crush an even small company given the opportunity. Large companies can sometimes offer more health benefits and such and smaller companies work 90 hour weeks more often. If you want a different social system or something, good for you. If we're talking the present system, weeping for the operations of the market is waste of time. Regulate actual bad behavior, sure. But otherwise, save all regulatory effort, I'd suggest.
- crispyambulance 7y ago
  > ...I don't care about a random small company getting rewarded for its random innovations. Why should I? Actually, the 800 lb gorilla companies DO CARE about random small companies and their random innovations. That's why they try to buy them, sometimes aggressively. Quite frankly, it's how larger companies can get innovation. As a company grows, true innovation usually gets squelched in favor of derpy project management bullshit. Creative people get burned out and leave, or, in some cases become "a fellow". The main way these big companies can actually innovate is to buy these smaller companies. It might be good for the owners of the small company, some folks cash-out, some get new jobs, some aren't so lucky. Whatever happens a bunch of folks got some great experiences and the satisfaction of creating something new. I don't see this stuff as a bad thing-- and especially not for social media stuff.
  - joe_the_user 7y ago
    "Actually, the 800 lb gorilla companies DO CARE about random small companies and their random innovations. That's why they try to buy them, sometimes aggressively. Quite frankly, it's how larger companies can get innovation." Yes, the market takes care of this so I don't have to care. The role of the citizen is caring about situations where markets malfunction - true monopolies, externalities, and all that jazz.

by soup10 7y ago

joe_the_user 7y ago

I don't get why people play devil's advocate in defense of scummy behavior by tech companies. "Scummy behavior" is dumping poison in rivers or working people 90 hours a week. Normal competition is large companies putting smaller companies out of business through greater leverage. I don't care about a random small company getting rewarded for its random innovations. Why should I? The smaller company would probably crush an even small company given the opportunity. Large companies can sometimes offer more health benefits and such and smaller companies work 90 hour weeks more often. If you want a different social system or something, good for you. If we're talking the present system, weeping for the operations of the market is waste of time. Regulate actual bad behavior, sure. But otherwise, save all regulatory effort, I'd suggest.

crispyambulance 7y ago
> ...I don't care about a random small company getting rewarded for its random innovations. Why should I? Actually, the 800 lb gorilla companies DO CARE about random small companies and their random innovations. That's why they try to buy them, sometimes aggressively. Quite frankly, it's how larger companies can get innovation. As a company grows, true innovation usually gets squelched in favor of derpy project management bullshit. Creative people get burned out and leave, or, in some cases become "a fellow". The main way these big companies can actually innovate is to buy these smaller companies. It might be good for the owners of the small company, some folks cash-out, some get new jobs, some aren't so lucky. Whatever happens a bunch of folks got some great experiences and the satisfaction of creating something new. I don't see this stuff as a bad thing-- and especially not for social media stuff.
- joe_the_user 7y ago
  "Actually, the 800 lb gorilla companies DO CARE about random small companies and their random innovations. That's why they try to buy them, sometimes aggressively. Quite frankly, it's how larger companies can get innovation." Yes, the market takes care of this so I don't have to care. The role of the citizen is caring about situations where markets malfunction - true monopolies, externalities, and all that jazz.