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I learned very thoroughly that the software version details were under "Help -> About". If it's not there, I'm not only stumped; I'm genuinely angry. That doesn

I learned very thoroughly that the software version details were under "Help -> About". If it's not there, I'm not only stumped; I'm genuinely angry. That doesn't have to be logical; emotional reactions happen by themselves. Making me angry with your software is not good for sales. Running on my desktop this very second; Postman. "Help" has no about. It has a "Check for Updates", but that doesn't tell me my current version. Only what new version is available. My response; a genuine feeling of frustration and anger.

mruts 7y ago
Yeah postman is the worst. I hate that pos with a passion.
- nrb 7y ago
  I didn't notice how unhappy I was with Postman until I switched to Insomnia https://insomnia.rest/ https://insomnia.rest/
  - johnchristopher 7y ago
    I can't imagine how Postman must be infuriating as I am already unhappy with some of insomnia UI quirks. Although maybe it's fixed now.
- Nextgrid 7y ago
  Paw is a good alternative.
throwaway744678 7y ago
On a related note, on Windows, double-checking the top left corner of a window used to close it (same behavior as the top-right X, but sometimes closer to the cursor) even if no icon were displayed. It gets annoying when nothing happens because the developer thought it would be nice to replace the default frame.
userbinator 7y ago
Newer versions of MS Office (with that ribbon) have the same problem. There is an About dialog, but getting to it is a process that I still can't remember after having to do it a few times. Yet Help->About is still in my mind after all these years, despite not using it all that much. The idiotic full screen save menu that forces you to click a few more times to save on the computer instead of a cloud service (I'm sure that's some sort of dark pattern...) is even worse, however. Edit: here's a good rant about that latter one: https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/11058/save-me-from-shit-ui-you-can-t-be-saved https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/11058/save-me-from-shit-u...
- poizan42 7y ago
  It's at File->Account->About <program>. Because it totally makes sense to put the about box under Account... I should also mention that there isn't even a Help menu anymore, because nobody would have a need for help with anything in Microsoft Office, right? You can still get help if you know about F1 though.
  - galangalalgol 7y ago
    Office left all the keyboard shortcuts the same, at least in excel. Some of the combos hardwired into my fingers are based on menus that no longer exist, but they still work. I don't know if that was good design or not, but i like it.
- raxxorrax 7y ago
  You should be glad that you still have any save menu, as they wanted to scrap that in favor of autosave. Everything coming out of MS the last 5 years has been thoroughly underwhelming, but the UI development and user infantilization takes the cake. Just image everyone in your company saves any document they opened automatically. How would these even look like after 1-2 weeks? The decision processes at Microsoft cannot be explained by cocaine alone anymore... Sorry for the rant, let's just say I understand your frustration...
  - TuringTest 7y ago

mruts 7y ago

Yeah postman is the worst. I hate that pos with a passion.

nrb 7y ago
I didn't notice how unhappy I was with Postman until I switched to Insomnia https://insomnia.rest/ https://insomnia.rest/
- johnchristopher 7y ago
  I can't imagine how Postman must be infuriating as I am already unhappy with some of insomnia UI quirks. Although maybe it's fixed now.
Nextgrid 7y ago
Paw is a good alternative.

throwaway744678 7y ago

On a related note, on Windows, double-checking the top left corner of a window used to close it (same behavior as the top-right X, but sometimes closer to the cursor) even if no icon were displayed. It gets annoying when nothing happens because the developer thought it would be nice to replace the default frame.

userbinator 7y ago

Newer versions of MS Office (with that ribbon) have the same problem. There is an About dialog, but getting to it is a process that I still can't remember after having to do it a few times. Yet Help->About is still in my mind after all these years, despite not using it all that much. The idiotic full screen save menu that forces you to click a few more times to save on the computer instead of a cloud service (I'm sure that's some sort of dark pattern...) is even worse, however. Edit: here's a good rant about that latter one: https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/11058/save-me-from-shit-ui-you-can-t-be-saved https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/11058/save-me-from-shit-u...

poizan42 7y ago
It's at File->Account->About <program>. Because it totally makes sense to put the about box under Account... I should also mention that there isn't even a Help menu anymore, because nobody would have a need for help with anything in Microsoft Office, right? You can still get help if you know about F1 though.
- galangalalgol 7y ago
  Office left all the keyboard shortcuts the same, at least in excel. Some of the combos hardwired into my fingers are based on menus that no longer exist, but they still work. I don't know if that was good design or not, but i like it.
raxxorrax 7y ago
You should be glad that you still have any save menu, as they wanted to scrap that in favor of autosave. Everything coming out of MS the last 5 years has been thoroughly underwhelming, but the UI development and user infantilization takes the cake. Just image everyone in your company saves any document they opened automatically. How would these even look like after 1-2 weeks? The decision processes at Microsoft cannot be explained by cocaine alone anymore... Sorry for the rant, let's just say I understand your frustration...
- TuringTest 7y ago