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This is the funniest post I've ever read on this website Either it's entirely the placebo effect, or it somehow actually does something and you're cooking your

This is the funniest post I've ever read on this website Either it's entirely the placebo effect, or it somehow actually does something and you're cooking your brain to wage slave even harder

traverseda 7y ago
Or we live in a reality where that just works, no cooking involved. That would also be amazing and hilarious. "This one simple trick..."
- rantwasp 7y ago
  snake-oil salesmen hate him
ChristianBundy 7y ago
This is peak n-gate.
- dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
  Yeah, I'm looking forward to reading that summary, too. I hope it gets better than the original thread as a noticed the quality of n-gate summaries go down a bit recently.
manmal 7y ago
A simple "pubmed near infrared brain" web search will yield enough results to dispel your concerns somewhat. Overdosing is of course not desirable, so yes, don't use a 10W laser for several minutes. There are plenty of therapeutic options which make it hard to overdose. Since you mentioned wage slaving - I chose coding performance as an example, but I could also have mentioned improved guitar playing skills. Or being a better listener. On average, I don't code that much more now, maybe 6h per day (as a freelancer, there's also lots of other things to do).
- voldacar 7y ago
  So do you just tape the thing to your third eye or something? Do you have some kind of harness rigged up for it?
icelancer 7y ago
>> wage slave Keep the personal attacks off here. There is no need for this.
anonytrary 7y ago
I honestly couldn't tell if the comment was just really good satire. It sounds like something right out of a dystopian anthology series.
- manmal 7y ago
  It was not. Do look it up, good keywords are "lllt", "photobiomodulation", "cytochrome c oxidase".
sitkack 7y ago
Placebo or not, I have turned the post into a business plan and have just submitted what I think will be an award winning pitch to YCombinator.
easycheezy 7y ago
this whole thread is hilarious https://i.postimg.cc/vTZgX2jp/hnmeme.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/vTZgX2jp/hnmeme.jpg
zone411 7y ago
Mean-spirited post. The OP appears to be working for his own design/development studio, so your premise is already wrong. Others could be doing it because they want to be more productive at work in order to finish quicker and spend more time with their families at home.
zarro 7y ago
Halfway through, I also thought this was some next level satire. Don't listen to these bums, there are much more people that agree with you. Its just that butt-hurt is a greater comment motivator than agreement.
tomhoward 7y ago
Regardless of the validity of the effect they are describing, this is an incredibly mean and nasty comment. They are describing a personal experience so that others may research it further should they choose to. I agree they haven't shared any objective evidence to add credibility to their claims, but our response should be to ask for more evidence, not to mock and sneer. "cooking your brain to wage slave even harder" Not just mean, but wrong; as another commenter pointed out, they seem to be self-employed, and for all we know, could have a serious reason (e.g., financial challenges, important work) why it matters a lot to be highly productive, at least occasionally (note they literally wrote "It’s not something I really want to do, but sometimes it’s useful”). For what it's worth, here's an article from 2014 that examines research into this kind of practice and finds evidence for its efficacy [1]. Other studies have found evidence that transcranial infrared energy may be beneficial for cognition [2] or illnesses such as Alzheimer's [2] and MS [3]. That said, it's not the kind of thing I would try, at least not regularly, as I take the view that artificial interventions like this likely carry some kind of side-effect or cost that renders negative or at-best neutral over the long-term (I feel the same way about pharmaceuticals and stimulants like caffeine). But I have used infrared light in other ways to address issues like muscle tension and inflammation, which is common and often recommended by mainstream doctors. But please, keep comments like this off HN. It's meant to be a place for curiosity and respectful discourse. The derision and contempt you displayed has no place here. [1] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2014.00036/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2014.0003... [2] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-42693-x https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-42693-x [3] https://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-publish-brain-ms-fnirs.html https://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-publish-brain-ms-fnir...

This is the funniest post I've ever read on this website Either it's entirely the placebo effect, or it somehow actually does something and you're cooking your brain to wage slave even harder

traverseda 7y ago

Or we live in a reality where that just works, no cooking involved. That would also be amazing and hilarious. "This one simple trick..."

rantwasp 7y ago
snake-oil salesmen hate him

ChristianBundy 7y ago

This is peak n-gate.

dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
Yeah, I'm looking forward to reading that summary, too. I hope it gets better than the original thread as a noticed the quality of n-gate summaries go down a bit recently.

manmal 7y ago

A simple "pubmed near infrared brain" web search will yield enough results to dispel your concerns somewhat. Overdosing is of course not desirable, so yes, don't use a 10W laser for several minutes. There are plenty of therapeutic options which make it hard to overdose. Since you mentioned wage slaving - I chose coding performance as an example, but I could also have mentioned improved guitar playing skills. Or being a better listener. On average, I don't code that much more now, maybe 6h per day (as a freelancer, there's also lots of other things to do).

voldacar 7y ago
So do you just tape the thing to your third eye or something? Do you have some kind of harness rigged up for it?

icelancer 7y ago

>> wage slave Keep the personal attacks off here. There is no need for this.

anonytrary 7y ago

I honestly couldn't tell if the comment was just really good satire. It sounds like something right out of a dystopian anthology series.

manmal 7y ago
It was not. Do look it up, good keywords are "lllt", "photobiomodulation", "cytochrome c oxidase".

sitkack 7y ago

Placebo or not, I have turned the post into a business plan and have just submitted what I think will be an award winning pitch to YCombinator.

easycheezy 7y ago

this whole thread is hilarious https://i.postimg.cc/vTZgX2jp/hnmeme.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/vTZgX2jp/hnmeme.jpg

zone411 7y ago

Mean-spirited post. The OP appears to be working for his own design/development studio, so your premise is already wrong. Others could be doing it because they want to be more productive at work in order to finish quicker and spend more time with their families at home.

zarro 7y ago

Halfway through, I also thought this was some next level satire. Don't listen to these bums, there are much more people that agree with you. Its just that butt-hurt is a greater comment motivator than agreement.

tomhoward 7y ago

Regardless of the validity of the effect they are describing, this is an incredibly mean and nasty comment. They are describing a personal experience so that others may research it further should they choose to. I agree they haven't shared any objective evidence to add credibility to their claims, but our response should be to ask for more evidence, not to mock and sneer. "cooking your brain to wage slave even harder" Not just mean, but wrong; as another commenter pointed out, they seem to be self-employed, and for all we know, could have a serious reason (e.g., financial challenges, important work) why it matters a lot to be highly productive, at least occasionally (note they literally wrote "It’s not something I really want to do, but sometimes it’s useful”). For what it's worth, here's an article from 2014 that examines research into this kind of practice and finds evidence for its efficacy [1]. Other studies have found evidence that transcranial infrared energy may be beneficial for cognition [2] or illnesses such as Alzheimer's [2] and MS [3]. That said, it's not the kind of thing I would try, at least not regularly, as I take the view that artificial interventions like this likely carry some kind of side-effect or cost that renders negative or at-best neutral over the long-term (I feel the same way about pharmaceuticals and stimulants like caffeine). But I have used infrared light in other ways to address issues like muscle tension and inflammation, which is common and often recommended by mainstream doctors. But please, keep comments like this off HN. It's meant to be a place for curiosity and respectful discourse. The derision and contempt you displayed has no place here. [1] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2014.00036/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2014.0003... [2] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-42693-x https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-42693-x [3] https://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-publish-brain-ms-fnirs.html https://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-publish-brain-ms-fnir...