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So basically, she started to eat a healthier diet and felt better for it. Quite how she managed to eat fruit without any sugar is of more interest.

by spzb 7y ago

djohnston 7y ago
Yes what is this magical sugar free fruit?! XD
- amelius 7y ago
  Perhaps they put the fruit in a jar with some yeast, let it ferment so the sugar converts to alcohol + CO2?
- guerrilla 7y ago
  Nuts :)
- throwaway744678 7y ago
  Perhaps a Juicero product?
amriksohata 7y ago
Natural sugars have a completely different effect on your body than refined sugars, plus the fibre in the fruits digests the sugar slower
- spzb 7y ago
  a: [citation needed] and b: the article title and opening paragraphs specifically say she gave up sugar
  - hombre_fatal 7y ago
    People almost always are referring to added sugar when they talk about dietary sugar. If anybody told me they were weening themselves off sugar, I would expect them to continue eating fruit unless stated otherwise. In fact I'd probably expect them to eat more of it as they're trying to make more healthy choices, and I wouldn't consider them inconsistent with their stated goals given what we tend to refer to when we say "sugar." I get HN/reddit's obsession with haha-gotcha snickering, but c'mon. Also, consider googling "sugar in fruit" to find info about fruit vs sugar: https://nutritionfacts.org/2016/08/09/what-about-all-the-sugar-in-fruit/ https://nutritionfacts.org/2016/08/09/what-about-all-the-sug... It's very interesting and surprising. For example: "Adding berries can actually blunt the insulin spike from high glycemic foods. For example, white bread creates a big insulin spike within two hours after eating it. Eat that same white bread with some berries, though, and we’re able to blunt the spike. So, even though we’ve effectively added more sugars in the form of berries, there’s less of an insulin spike, which has a variety of potential short and long-term benefits."
    - spzb 7y ago
      "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less."
      - hombre_fatal 7y ago
        The usage doesn't seem very confusing to me. How are you going to understand and communicate with anyone if you don't know what they mean, refuse to understand, yet insist on something they didn't? And what's the upside to you beyond patting yourself on the back while missing the message? I can say that it certainly doesn't elevate the discourse on this forum.
- timbit42 7y ago
  I agree the effect is not entirely the same but it's definitely not completely different.
- basch 7y ago
  to be fair to the author she gave up fruit juice, which would be fruit sugar without fiber. So its some improvement, if fruit was substituted instead. Still a bad headline.
throwaway744678 7y ago
Unless one has coeliac disease, cutting off gluten is very much not recommended for one's health(on a scientific level, that is; reaching for Instagram likes is another matter) Gluten is not nefarious, for Hypocrate's sake! Also, there's no such thing as a "detox", and fasting does not do your body any good.
- hombre_fatal 7y ago
  That sounds like pseudo/armchair/forum science as well. Why would you need grains much less gluten in your diet? I bet most people would see an improvement in their waistline if they removed them or replaced them with, say, more vegetables. Breads are a vice for most of us and I have a hard time believing they're contributing much to the diet unless your diet is just bread and soda pop.
  - throwaway744678 7y ago
    I am certainly not a doctor, but it seemed to me that it was well-known. Look, eg.: https://www.gastroenterologyandhepatology.net/archives/february-2018/health-benefits-and-adverse-effects-of-a-gluten-free-diet-in-non-celiac-disease-patients/ https://www.gastroenterologyandhepatology.net/archives/febru...
    - mcguire 7y ago
      "The GFD continues to trend in popular culture and the media, and more people are restricting gluten from their diet. The medical community must seek to provide an evidence-based approach delineating both the benefits and potential harms of a GFD. Although convincing evidence is available to support the benefits of a GFD for certain patient populations without a gluten-related disease (especially patients with IBS and NCGS), the data are conflicting and not definitive. It appears that most individuals who participate in a GFD do not have a physiologic requirement for the diet and likely do not derive substantial benefit. Existing evidence for potential harms of a GFD include possible nutritional deficiencies, financial costs, and negative psychosocial implications. As with other dietary interventions, a GFD is a rapidly evolving topic, and additional insight is needed to guide a complete discussion between patients considering a GFD and their health care providers."

So basically, she started to eat a healthier diet and felt better for it. Quite how she managed to eat fruit without any sugar is of more interest.

by spzb 7y ago

So basically, she started to eat a healthier diet and felt better for it. Quite how she managed to eat fruit without any sugar is of more interest.

djohnston 7y ago

Yes what is this magical sugar free fruit?! XD

amelius 7y ago
Perhaps they put the fruit in a jar with some yeast, let it ferment so the sugar converts to alcohol + CO2?
guerrilla 7y ago
Nuts :)
throwaway744678 7y ago
Perhaps a Juicero product?

amriksohata 7y ago

Natural sugars have a completely different effect on your body than refined sugars, plus the fibre in the fruits digests the sugar slower

spzb 7y ago
a: [citation needed] and b: the article title and opening paragraphs specifically say she gave up sugar
- hombre_fatal 7y ago
  People almost always are referring to added sugar when they talk about dietary sugar. If anybody told me they were weening themselves off sugar, I would expect them to continue eating fruit unless stated otherwise. In fact I'd probably expect them to eat more of it as they're trying to make more healthy choices, and I wouldn't consider them inconsistent with their stated goals given what we tend to refer to when we say "sugar." I get HN/reddit's obsession with haha-gotcha snickering, but c'mon. Also, consider googling "sugar in fruit" to find info about fruit vs sugar: https://nutritionfacts.org/2016/08/09/what-about-all-the-sugar-in-fruit/ https://nutritionfacts.org/2016/08/09/what-about-all-the-sug... It's very interesting and surprising. For example: "Adding berries can actually blunt the insulin spike from high glycemic foods. For example, white bread creates a big insulin spike within two hours after eating it. Eat that same white bread with some berries, though, and we’re able to blunt the spike. So, even though we’ve effectively added more sugars in the form of berries, there’s less of an insulin spike, which has a variety of potential short and long-term benefits."
  - spzb 7y ago
    "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less."
    - hombre_fatal 7y ago
      The usage doesn't seem very confusing to me. How are you going to understand and communicate with anyone if you don't know what they mean, refuse to understand, yet insist on something they didn't? And what's the upside to you beyond patting yourself on the back while missing the message? I can say that it certainly doesn't elevate the discourse on this forum.
timbit42 7y ago
I agree the effect is not entirely the same but it's definitely not completely different.
basch 7y ago
to be fair to the author she gave up fruit juice, which would be fruit sugar without fiber. So its some improvement, if fruit was substituted instead. Still a bad headline.

throwaway744678 7y ago

Unless one has coeliac disease, cutting off gluten is very much not recommended for one's health(on a scientific level, that is; reaching for Instagram likes is another matter) Gluten is not nefarious, for Hypocrate's sake! Also, there's no such thing as a "detox", and fasting does not do your body any good.

hombre_fatal 7y ago
That sounds like pseudo/armchair/forum science as well. Why would you need grains much less gluten in your diet? I bet most people would see an improvement in their waistline if they removed them or replaced them with, say, more vegetables. Breads are a vice for most of us and I have a hard time believing they're contributing much to the diet unless your diet is just bread and soda pop.
- throwaway744678 7y ago
  I am certainly not a doctor, but it seemed to me that it was well-known. Look, eg.: https://www.gastroenterologyandhepatology.net/archives/february-2018/health-benefits-and-adverse-effects-of-a-gluten-free-diet-in-non-celiac-disease-patients/ https://www.gastroenterologyandhepatology.net/archives/febru...
  - mcguire 7y ago
    "The GFD continues to trend in popular culture and the media, and more people are restricting gluten from their diet. The medical community must seek to provide an evidence-based approach delineating both the benefits and potential harms of a GFD. Although convincing evidence is available to support the benefits of a GFD for certain patient populations without a gluten-related disease (especially patients with IBS and NCGS), the data are conflicting and not definitive. It appears that most individuals who participate in a GFD do not have a physiologic requirement for the diet and likely do not derive substantial benefit. Existing evidence for potential harms of a GFD include possible nutritional deficiencies, financial costs, and negative psychosocial implications. As with other dietary interventions, a GFD is a rapidly evolving topic, and additional insight is needed to guide a complete discussion between patients considering a GFD and their health care providers."