4 ms·
Historically what has worked better?
by BubRoss 7y ago
Historically what has worked better?
- coldtea 7y agoHistorically, from the pyramids, to the wonder that is Rome, slavery did some impressive feats too... Should we have continued with that?
- emersonrsantos 7y agoIn capitalism, agreement or disagreement with someone doesn’t lead you to death.
- coldtea 7y agoYes, this is externalized in capitalism to the developing countries which it plunders (and which well into the 60s, most major capitalist forces used to have directly as colonies)...
- Ygg2 7y agoColonialism predates capitalism and feudalism. It's not caused by it.
- coldtea 7y agoAncient colonialism had different forms (e.g. settlement). Modern colonialism (Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, Belgium, England, France, and to a lesser degree US, Italy, and Germany) was a practice of the emerged capitalist states that started and flourished after the historically agreed upon dawn of capitalism (circa late medieval Italian city states and later the rest of Europe), and fed it.
- emersonrsantos 7y agoColonialism is theft. If they bought land from the natives that would be moral. Native people have all rights to home it has built, the land it has tilled and the livestock it has raised. Nothing to do with capitalism.
- cristoperb 7y agoI'm not sure this is a meaningful question to most anti-capitalists who want to move beyond capitalism to a non-exploitative economic system rather than return to some real or imagined historic system.
- deleted 7y ago[deleted]
- dr_dshiv 7y agoHonest question: what is the non-capitalist alternative economic system? European socialism and Chinese communism are still very capitalist. I'm always generally confused by these debates.
- traverseda 7y agoPurportedly per-agricultural hunter-gathering, depending on your goals.
- BubRoss 7y agoNothing really prevents you from doing that.
- traverseda 7y agoLots of things prevent someone from doing that, and certainly there's a very good reason why everyone can't do that. I mean why do you think no one is doing that? It can't just be because it painful or unpleasant, lots of people have terrible hobbies. Try to actually think about what would be required, what resources they would have had available to them, instead of just putting hunter/gatherer in a magic box. There are a bunch of different reasons why you can't do it these days, poaching laws being one of the most obvious. Who's land are you going to hunt/gather on? I feel like you haven't actually thought about this.
- trevyn 7y agoA lot of the barriers are in one’s own mind.