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The US Navy just confirmed these UFO videos are the real deal

40 points by arthurcolle 7y ago

aazaa 7y ago
> Gradisher said the Navy's transparency about unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP, is largely done to encourage trainees to report "incursions" they spot in the airfield, which threaten pilots' safety. > ... > "For many years, our aviators didn't report these incursions because of the stigma attached to previous terminology and theories about what may or may not be in those videos," he said. This makes the confirmation sound like the start of a new policy. Is it?
clouddrover 7y ago
These UFOs might be radar reflector balloons: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28640/could-some-of-the-ufos-navy-pilots-are-encountering-be-airborne-radar-reflectors https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28640/could-some-of-th...
- arthurcolle 7y ago
  This definitely matches the description by one of the pilots as "a sphere encasing a cube," but it wouldn't really explain the directional changes or extremely high observed speeds.
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  - blasphemous 7y ago
    The object descended from 28000FT to 50FT at 24000 miles per hour with instant acceleration, no signs of thrust or even wings. According to the reports, for me its whether you believe the reports from those that saw it or not. If you choose to believe them, then it's hard to believe the earth tech to allow this was possible in 2004.
    - arthurcolle 7y ago
      I'd like to discuss this further with you privately if you are so inclined. Email is in my profile. Send me something if you'd like to discuss further. cheers
typeformer 7y ago
Before people here start offering ideas of what they think these objects are, let review what we know they are not: They are not balloons: -they move too fast and travel under water (as there were confirmed sonar hits of these objects). They are not conventional aircraft: -they have no wings or signs of obvious conventional propulsion. They were not false radar blips: -they were tracked on advance gun sight cameras including in both the infrared and high definition video modes. They were not camera software malfunctions -Because they were tracked on Navy ship radar, Sonar, Space based radar, and jet fighter radar. These objects can do maneuvers that can’t be explain by our conventional physics because they defy our common understanding of inertia. This includes accelerating at extreme speeds, stopping on a dime, and changing directions instantaneously. The real truth is the US government (and others) do know, and have known for decades, that these craft are extra terrestrial. In addition the US government has recovered and possible reverse engineered some of the technology behind them. This secret they believe is too large to let go of due to multiple military, social, economic and religious implications, none the less, it’s our responsibility to hold them to account and demand they tell the truth! Way too much is at stake to keep this all hidden any longer, it’s time for full UFO disclosure.
- dewclaw 7y ago
  At paragraph number four, you just go off the rails and blow a gasket. Especially the part about: religious implications The government is not at all concerned about religious implications. The hydrogen bomb's invention and test programs makes that very clear. The A in UFO is for Aliens.
- pippy 7y ago
  > that these craft are extra terrestrial. I'd say it's more likely there are other intelligent earthbound beings rather than from outer space. It's called the Silurian hypothesis. There have been several extinction events here on earth which mirror our current one caused by humans. Evidence of us on earth disappears surprisingly quickly: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journal-of-astrobiology/article/silurian-hypothesis-would-it-be-possible-to-detect-an-industrial-civilization-in-the-geological-record/77818514AA6907750B8F4339F7C70EC6/core-reader https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journa...
aalleavitch 7y ago
While I'm sure these are most likely some sort of military drones or other type of classified technology (don't ask me which nation's), I will note that the description of these things sounds an awful lot like a Culture drone. Just saying.
tmn 7y ago
Without implying it must be conspiratorial, do not rule out the possibility it is simply disinformation.

40 points by arthurcolle 7y ago

> Gradisher said the Navy's transparency about unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP, is largely done to encourage trainees to report "incursions" they spot in the airfield, which threaten pilots' safety. > ... > "For many years, our aviators didn't report these incursions because of the stigma attached to previous terminology and theories about what may or may not be in those videos," he said. This makes the confirmation sound like the start of a new policy. Is it?

clouddrover 7y ago

These UFOs might be radar reflector balloons: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28640/could-some-of-the-ufos-navy-pilots-are-encountering-be-airborne-radar-reflectors https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28640/could-some-of-th...

arthurcolle 7y ago
This definitely matches the description by one of the pilots as "a sphere encasing a cube," but it wouldn't really explain the directional changes or extremely high observed speeds.
- deleted 7y ago
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- blasphemous 7y ago
  The object descended from 28000FT to 50FT at 24000 miles per hour with instant acceleration, no signs of thrust or even wings. According to the reports, for me its whether you believe the reports from those that saw it or not. If you choose to believe them, then it's hard to believe the earth tech to allow this was possible in 2004.
  - arthurcolle 7y ago
    I'd like to discuss this further with you privately if you are so inclined. Email is in my profile. Send me something if you'd like to discuss further. cheers

typeformer 7y ago

Before people here start offering ideas of what they think these objects are, let review what we know they are not: They are not balloons: -they move too fast and travel under water (as there were confirmed sonar hits of these objects). They are not conventional aircraft: -they have no wings or signs of obvious conventional propulsion. They were not false radar blips: -they were tracked on advance gun sight cameras including in both the infrared and high definition video modes. They were not camera software malfunctions -Because they were tracked on Navy ship radar, Sonar, Space based radar, and jet fighter radar. These objects can do maneuvers that can’t be explain by our conventional physics because they defy our common understanding of inertia. This includes accelerating at extreme speeds, stopping on a dime, and changing directions instantaneously. The real truth is the US government (and others) do know, and have known for decades, that these craft are extra terrestrial. In addition the US government has recovered and possible reverse engineered some of the technology behind them. This secret they believe is too large to let go of due to multiple military, social, economic and religious implications, none the less, it’s our responsibility to hold them to account and demand they tell the truth! Way too much is at stake to keep this all hidden any longer, it’s time for full UFO disclosure.

dewclaw 7y ago
At paragraph number four, you just go off the rails and blow a gasket. Especially the part about: religious implications The government is not at all concerned about religious implications. The hydrogen bomb's invention and test programs makes that very clear. The A in UFO is for Aliens.
pippy 7y ago
> that these craft are extra terrestrial. I'd say it's more likely there are other intelligent earthbound beings rather than from outer space. It's called the Silurian hypothesis. There have been several extinction events here on earth which mirror our current one caused by humans. Evidence of us on earth disappears surprisingly quickly: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journal-of-astrobiology/article/silurian-hypothesis-would-it-be-possible-to-detect-an-industrial-civilization-in-the-geological-record/77818514AA6907750B8F4339F7C70EC6/core-reader https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journa...

aalleavitch 7y ago

While I'm sure these are most likely some sort of military drones or other type of classified technology (don't ask me which nation's), I will note that the description of these things sounds an awful lot like a Culture drone. Just saying.

tmn 7y ago

Without implying it must be conspiratorial, do not rule out the possibility it is simply disinformation.