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extremist? Really? And especially to the level of comparing it with a literal terrorist organization. The hard right has its genuinely extremist, white supremac

extremist? Really? And especially to the level of comparing it with a literal terrorist organization. The hard right has its genuinely extremist, white supremacist and nationalist elements but to claim that a conservative affinity makes a site like this into an extremist page is absurdly self-righteous and hypocritical even. Might as well say the same about Huffpo or NPR. No? I never understood how leftist and heavily "progressive" ideas automatically get a free pass as being fundamentally correct even when they have a long history of friendliness towards very violent extremes of their own spectrum but even moderate conservatism is right on the creaking edge of being declared extreme no matter what.

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metabagel 7y ago
I didn't see the original comment, which has been flagged and apparently deleted by a moderator. I just want to say that the liberal equivalent of The American Conservative is probably something like Jacobin Magazine, not HuffPost or NPR. Basically, a source of opinion and ideas with a political agenda.
- astine 7y ago
  If you turn on "showdead" you'll be able to see the original comment. I don't think there was anything worth flagging about it; the commenter just gave away his political bias using the the word 'extremist' rather than a more neutral term. "Basically, a source of opinion and ideas with a political agenda." This is exactly right, I think.
keepspeechfree 7y ago
throwaway, because well see below. y, I find extremely troubling that: Groups can so easily attack and label other groups as extreme when they hold similar views toward the other end of the spectrum. Accuse others of being non-accepting of their ideas while at the same time not being accepting of the other groups ideas and beliefs. And willing to destroy the other sides careers and businesses over it. People should always be able to have their own beliefs and speak out and question things without fear of persecution. Being accepting and open to ideas and discussion is the way we should debate and express our ideas/opinions. If you are having to spread and enforce your ideas through fear you are probably on the wrong side.
clairity 7y ago
> "I never understood how leftist and heavily "progressive" ideas automatically get a free pass as being fundamentally correct..." that's pretty easy to explain: liberalism is grounded in inclusivity, and conservatism in exclusivity, which is a tension that lives in each of us. and from a young age, we are educated that sharing and caring for others is good, and being selfish is bad. we tend to equate things that are good with being correct. note that progressivism doesn't lay on this spectrum at all, as it only advocates progress over stagnation (a different facet of conservatism). the philosophical positions of these ideologies are different from their political implementations, of course.
angry_octet 7y ago
I didn't compare it to AQ, I said it was bizarre. AC has a lot of anti-LGBT hate articles which alone is enough to be considered extremeist. But I'm sorry if you take that as an insult.

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metabagel 7y ago

I didn't see the original comment, which has been flagged and apparently deleted by a moderator. I just want to say that the liberal equivalent of The American Conservative is probably something like Jacobin Magazine, not HuffPost or NPR. Basically, a source of opinion and ideas with a political agenda.

astine 7y ago
If you turn on "showdead" you'll be able to see the original comment. I don't think there was anything worth flagging about it; the commenter just gave away his political bias using the the word 'extremist' rather than a more neutral term. "Basically, a source of opinion and ideas with a political agenda." This is exactly right, I think.

keepspeechfree 7y ago

throwaway, because well see below. y, I find extremely troubling that: Groups can so easily attack and label other groups as extreme when they hold similar views toward the other end of the spectrum. Accuse others of being non-accepting of their ideas while at the same time not being accepting of the other groups ideas and beliefs. And willing to destroy the other sides careers and businesses over it. People should always be able to have their own beliefs and speak out and question things without fear of persecution. Being accepting and open to ideas and discussion is the way we should debate and express our ideas/opinions. If you are having to spread and enforce your ideas through fear you are probably on the wrong side.

clairity 7y ago

> "I never understood how leftist and heavily "progressive" ideas automatically get a free pass as being fundamentally correct..." that's pretty easy to explain: liberalism is grounded in inclusivity, and conservatism in exclusivity, which is a tension that lives in each of us. and from a young age, we are educated that sharing and caring for others is good, and being selfish is bad. we tend to equate things that are good with being correct. note that progressivism doesn't lay on this spectrum at all, as it only advocates progress over stagnation (a different facet of conservatism). the philosophical positions of these ideologies are different from their political implementations, of course.

angry_octet 7y ago

I didn't compare it to AQ, I said it was bizarre. AC has a lot of anti-LGBT hate articles which alone is enough to be considered extremeist. But I'm sorry if you take that as an insult.