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> China does not respond to the normal stimulus / protest that democratic, human-rights based nations do. I wonder how you see them as any different to the US?
by geowwy 7y ago
> China does not respond to the normal stimulus / protest that democratic, human-rights based nations do.
I wonder how you see them as any different to the US? The US wasn't scrambling to meet the demands of the Occupy Movement.
I guess there was the brutality of the Tiananmen Square Massacre, but Tiananmen is the exception in the history of Chinese protests, just like the Kent State Massacre was in the US.
- jryle70 7y agoInformation about Ken State Massacre is widely available [0] Can you show me an online resource about Tiananmen Square Massacre, in Chinese, that is accessible to Chinese audience? If it is only an exception in Chinese history, why is it not being mentioned anywhere, let alone discussed? You still don't see the difference? [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
- jogging_bobby 7y agoI think you'd be surprised to learn most Chinese know about the Tiananmen Square protests. It's within living memory and the government has made statements about it which can be found in archives etc. Most Chinese don't want to talk about it because it's considered a source of national shame. (Westerners often interpret that as them being afraid to talk, but that's not actually true.) They also believe the events are used for foreign propaganda which is not entirely untrue.
- pimmen 7y agoSo that’s why the CCP blocked all versions of Wikipedia in conjunction with the 30 year anniversary? Because they didn’t want to bother people with shame? In Germany people have a completely different perspective on the Holocaust. It was horrible and a source of great national shame, but still, never forget. Blocking Wikipedia on Holocaust remembrance day would not happen in Germany.
- refurb 7y agoTiananmen is an exception? Maybe it’s a stretch to call them protests, but millions of “state enemies” were killed in China over the last 70 years. Cultural revolution, Landlord Purges, etc.
- jogging_bobby 7y agoDid you know when De Gaulle came to power they killed more Frenchmen than the Nazis? Also supposedly enemies of the state. I just ask because I wouldn't consider France an oppressive regime. Sometimes we lack the same perspective when it comes to China. The Chinese Communist Party is not looking for another cultural revolution, they learnt their lesson from that part of their history.
- pimmen 7y ago> Tiananmen is the exception in the history of Chinese protests Is the Hundred Flowers Campaign also an exception? And the millions of people who were killed during the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution? Or the millions of people who have been brainwashed for religious reasons in Xinjiang? Or the thousands of journalists, authors and publishers who have been jailed, sometimes "disappeared", for texts critical of the CCP just during the last two decades?
- icelancer 7y agoThere's also that whole Uyghurs being forcibly relocated and interned.... thing. Just a few hundred thousand of them. Maybe a million. Who's counting?