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The government must help it's citizens, especially as ban is unlawful and has nothing to do with any kind of criminal prosecution. One thing if they were arrest

The government must help it's citizens, especially as ban is unlawful and has nothing to do with any kind of criminal prosecution. One thing if they were arrested, but this... Why not just extract them?

tln 7y ago
Maybe because challenging China's sovereignty is risky? Just a guess. It's a good question. With the rapid growth of global tourism, there are a lot more citizens visiting different countries. I wonder if the state dept (or equivalent in other govts) are getting stretched. The article makes it clear that China is making up criminal cases to justify exit bans, as well.
- anovikov 7y ago
  Just an inflatable boat and a sub in coastal waters. Massive ECM cover if they mention anything. And denial after. What also works is making the most of these cases in PR sense. To show people that travel to China is risky. Must be a good way of impeding their economic growth and world influence, who wants to deal in a country like that.
  - pgeorgi 7y ago
    > Just an inflatable boat and a sub in coastal waters. Massive ECM cover if they mention anything. And denial after. Sounds like you're volunteering for that job.
  - gruez 7y ago
    >Just an inflatable boat and a sub in coastal waters. I have a feeling that they're probably being monitored, so that probably won't go very well.
simion314 7y ago
Because the situation can be exploited, the government just needs to twist and push the story so the next actions related to China are motivated or citizen get distracted related to the real reasons behind the actions.
throwaway2048 7y ago
When you are in another country, and the government decides to abuse you, detain you or even straight up execute you, there is very, very little your home country can do about it, besides complain and try to assist you with some advice (not legal advice however). They aren't going to invade another country to recover you, or do much of anything else. Even if you are American. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/emergencies/arrest-detention.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-tra... Keep this in mind before you travel. Read travel advisories, they are not overblown, or alarmist, they are important sources of information to fully understand before you travel. https://travelmaps.state.gov/TSGMap/ https://travelmaps.state.gov/TSGMap/ https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/advisories https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/advisories https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice

tln 7y ago

Maybe because challenging China's sovereignty is risky? Just a guess. It's a good question. With the rapid growth of global tourism, there are a lot more citizens visiting different countries. I wonder if the state dept (or equivalent in other govts) are getting stretched. The article makes it clear that China is making up criminal cases to justify exit bans, as well.

anovikov 7y ago
Just an inflatable boat and a sub in coastal waters. Massive ECM cover if they mention anything. And denial after. What also works is making the most of these cases in PR sense. To show people that travel to China is risky. Must be a good way of impeding their economic growth and world influence, who wants to deal in a country like that.
- pgeorgi 7y ago
  > Just an inflatable boat and a sub in coastal waters. Massive ECM cover if they mention anything. And denial after. Sounds like you're volunteering for that job.
- gruez 7y ago
  >Just an inflatable boat and a sub in coastal waters. I have a feeling that they're probably being monitored, so that probably won't go very well.

simion314 7y ago

Because the situation can be exploited, the government just needs to twist and push the story so the next actions related to China are motivated or citizen get distracted related to the real reasons behind the actions.

throwaway2048 7y ago

When you are in another country, and the government decides to abuse you, detain you or even straight up execute you, there is very, very little your home country can do about it, besides complain and try to assist you with some advice (not legal advice however). They aren't going to invade another country to recover you, or do much of anything else. Even if you are American. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/emergencies/arrest-detention.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-tra... Keep this in mind before you travel. Read travel advisories, they are not overblown, or alarmist, they are important sources of information to fully understand before you travel. https://travelmaps.state.gov/TSGMap/ https://travelmaps.state.gov/TSGMap/ https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/advisories https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/advisories https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice