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The experiences of beginners are as valid as anybody else's. It creates an unfriendly culture if people are told they can't talk about their frustrations and c
by djrobstep 7y ago
The experiences of beginners are as valid as anybody else's.
It creates an unfriendly culture if people are told they can't talk about their frustrations and challenges without having x years of experience first.
- Insanity 7y agoThe experience of a beginner with a certain tool is quite important. E.g, if Linux is not user friendly to newbies something could be done about that. But some tools require expertise and a beginner might not get the entire picture yet. E.g, if someone with 1 year of physics experience claims Quantum Mechanics to be dumb, is that a valid opinion?
- okl 7y agoIt might be. Your point is that it's not worth your time to consider that someone's opinion.
- tjpnz 7y agoI'm not going to take any opinion seriously with a headline like that.
- djrobstep 7y agoThis isn't some conceptually difficult thing like quantum mechanics, it's something designed to make software easier to build. If it doesn't in fact do that for this person it's totally valid to mention that.
- Insanity 7y agoIt's valid to have an opinion on something, another thing is having a well-founded opinion. I love vim and my opinion is that it's better than Emacs. But I used VIM for a decade and Emacs for 6 months. Is anyone going to take my opinion on Emacs seriously, knowing that these tools take time to master?
- blunte 7y ago> Is anyone going to take my opinion on Emacs seriously, knowing that these tools take time to master? Maybe not, but you're welcome to publish an essay on what you think.
- Insanity 7y agoTrue, and everyone is welcome to voice their opinion. I'd encourage that, but it still doesn't make it 'valid' for a larger audience. :)
- tjpnz 7y ago>The experiences of beginners are as valid as anybody else's. In certain situations they may be even more valid. But when it comes to software processes you really need to have lived and breathed them in order to mount a credible argument. >It creates an unfriendly culture if people are told they can't talk about their frustrations and challenges without having x years of experience first. Nobody is denying this person the right to talk about their frustrations.
- simonh 7y ago>Nobody is denying this person the right to talk about their frustrations. bjornsing's comment is implicitly highly critical of them doing so.
- kthejoker2 7y agoThe headline title is beyond a "frustration", it reads like a universal assertion. Something like "I dont like TDD" or "I struggle with TDD; here are my thoughts" would at least ground us in our expectations.
- mytailorisrich 7y agoI think the idea is to avoid calling something "dumb" when you have not enough understanding and experience in it to pass such arrogant judgement.
- humble_engineer 7y ago>experiences of beginners are as valid What does this even mean? Their experiences are valid?