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I’m no expert, but it just seems like a lot of nonsense? This doesn’t fit my definition of a game as much as it just seems like a random semi-amusing chatbot.

LeonB 7y ago
Sure but the “semi-amusing” part varies a lot from person to person. It pattern matches into old neurons and rewards some people (like me) with much delight. It’s valuable nonsense to me at least.
- DonHopkins 7y ago
  It's only a little better than Emacs's m-x dissociated-press. https://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/emacs/html_node/emacs_473.html https://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/emacs/html_node/emacs_47... >It is a mustatement that too much use of Dissociated Press can be a developediment to your real work. Sometimes to the point of outragedy. And keep dissociwords out of your documentation, if you want it to be well userenced and properbose. Have fun. Your buggestions are welcome. https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DissociatedPress https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DissociatedPress
- ilikepi 7y ago
  Agreed. The content on this site provides an endless source of giggling for me. I have tried and failed to explain to my wife why I find it so amusing. The author has a talent for presenting quasi-coherent computer-generated gibberish in a particular way, and like you, I guess I'm just highly attuned to it.
malux85 7y ago
Yeah, but have you noticed over the last few years it's getting better and better (i.e. less and less nonsense). This is the beginning of machine reasoning and procedural storytelling
- ravenstine 7y ago
  The grammar might be better as is the sentence structure(still pretty bad), but from an information/story sense it's still about as gibberish as anything like this created before. Until AI can actually experience context, I really doubt there's any way to teach it to generate convincing stories without tons of supervision.
  - LanceH 7y ago
    I've noticed that over the last 15 years, the teen supernatural romance section has grown from a shelf to rack to a row.
    - DonHopkins 7y ago
      Chuck Tingle's NSFW dinosaur tinglers, bigfoot tinglers, unicorn tinglers, living object tinglers, and living place tinglers have become enormously popular. https://www.chucktingle.com/ebook.html https://www.chucktingle.com/ebook.html Unlike the output of a neural network, his surrealistic enigmatically erotic prose is somehow coherent and uniformly stylized, makes perfect sense in terms of its own internal logic, and consistently rationalizes and explains even the most absurd topics he imagines. Vox has covered his brilliant work: https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/10/18/12775742/who-is-chuck-tingle-fake-explained https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/10/18/12775742/who-is-chuck... >The secret behind internet erotica icon Chuck Tingle: his own life may be the best story he's ever written: Behind the surreal performance art, the gay dinosaur porn, and the political erotica may lie a beautiful reality. >The list of things that Tingle’s narrators have had sex with includes, but is not limited to: the state of California; glazed donuts; the Dress; Bigfoot pirates; a gay unicorn biker and a gay unicorn colonel, though not simultaneously; Donald Trump’s attempt to avoid plagiarism accusations; Starbucks Christmas cups; a billionaire triceratops; a T. rex comedian and a clan of triceratops rappers (stand-ins for Bill Murray and the Wu Tang Clan); ghost boats; velociraptors from outer space; a secret-agent brontosaurus; the White House; the British pound; a plane; a train; a vampire night bus; his own books; press about his own books; existential dread; his own concept of linear time. So much of it is also biting social commentary and political satire about current events and controversies, like "Pounded In The Butt By The Sentient Manifestation Of My Own Ignorant Climate Change Denial": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRH69VR/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRH69VR/ Or "Pounded By The Pound: Turned Gay By The Socioeconomic Implications Of Britain Leaving The European Union": https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implications-European-ebook/dp/B01HJXVP8G/ https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implicati... He counter-trolled the alt-right "Rabid Puppies" Hugo Award trolls: https://www.therabidpuppies.com/ https://www.therabidpuppies.com/ And wrote "Slammed in the Butt by my own Hugo Award Nomination": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EUC93RE https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EUC93RE Here's another Vox article about his troll of the alt-right "Rabid Puppies": https://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11759842/chuck-tingle-hugo-award-rabid-puppies-explained https://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11759842/chuck-tingle-hugo-awa... >Satirical erotica author Chuck Tingle's massive troll of conservative sci-fi fans, explained: Right-wing sci-fi writers tried to delegitimize the Hugo Awards by nominating a writer no one took seriously. Here's how he took them all by surprise. This video explains his Literary Genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5zLGZfheY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5zLGZfheY >The Literary Genius of Chuck Tingle: Chuck Tingle is an author of some of the best erotica of our time. From dinosaurs to unicorns to political satire, his writing never fails to elicit a sharp tingle down the spine.
swayvil 7y ago
Well it's a gradient, isn't it? Call it a 10% game, where 50% is the threshold of minimal gaming satisfaction.
- joe_the_user 7y ago
  I don't know you can put it as a percentage. The generated text might associate with what you type but there seems like 0% goals-as-such, 0% available choices-as-such, 0% dangers-as-such. Maybe you 10% "influence" over the random the thing spews but that doesn't seem 10% game even. Edit: also, 0% constraints based on either passed actions or properties of things in the world. As others have noted, it will generally respond to the most obvious action of the scene with either a reason that action is impossible or some entirely unrelated. Perhaps the thing could be trained to give a resource-print-out and then you'd have some idea where hard limits existed.

LeonB 7y ago

Sure but the “semi-amusing” part varies a lot from person to person. It pattern matches into old neurons and rewards some people (like me) with much delight. It’s valuable nonsense to me at least.

DonHopkins 7y ago
It's only a little better than Emacs's m-x dissociated-press. https://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/emacs/html_node/emacs_473.html https://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/emacs/html_node/emacs_47... >It is a mustatement that too much use of Dissociated Press can be a developediment to your real work. Sometimes to the point of outragedy. And keep dissociwords out of your documentation, if you want it to be well userenced and properbose. Have fun. Your buggestions are welcome. https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DissociatedPress https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DissociatedPress
ilikepi 7y ago
Agreed. The content on this site provides an endless source of giggling for me. I have tried and failed to explain to my wife why I find it so amusing. The author has a talent for presenting quasi-coherent computer-generated gibberish in a particular way, and like you, I guess I'm just highly attuned to it.

malux85 7y ago

Yeah, but have you noticed over the last few years it's getting better and better (i.e. less and less nonsense). This is the beginning of machine reasoning and procedural storytelling

ravenstine 7y ago
The grammar might be better as is the sentence structure(still pretty bad), but from an information/story sense it's still about as gibberish as anything like this created before. Until AI can actually experience context, I really doubt there's any way to teach it to generate convincing stories without tons of supervision.
- LanceH 7y ago
  I've noticed that over the last 15 years, the teen supernatural romance section has grown from a shelf to rack to a row.
  - DonHopkins 7y ago
    Chuck Tingle's NSFW dinosaur tinglers, bigfoot tinglers, unicorn tinglers, living object tinglers, and living place tinglers have become enormously popular. https://www.chucktingle.com/ebook.html https://www.chucktingle.com/ebook.html Unlike the output of a neural network, his surrealistic enigmatically erotic prose is somehow coherent and uniformly stylized, makes perfect sense in terms of its own internal logic, and consistently rationalizes and explains even the most absurd topics he imagines. Vox has covered his brilliant work: https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/10/18/12775742/who-is-chuck-tingle-fake-explained https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/10/18/12775742/who-is-chuck... >The secret behind internet erotica icon Chuck Tingle: his own life may be the best story he's ever written: Behind the surreal performance art, the gay dinosaur porn, and the political erotica may lie a beautiful reality. >The list of things that Tingle’s narrators have had sex with includes, but is not limited to: the state of California; glazed donuts; the Dress; Bigfoot pirates; a gay unicorn biker and a gay unicorn colonel, though not simultaneously; Donald Trump’s attempt to avoid plagiarism accusations; Starbucks Christmas cups; a billionaire triceratops; a T. rex comedian and a clan of triceratops rappers (stand-ins for Bill Murray and the Wu Tang Clan); ghost boats; velociraptors from outer space; a secret-agent brontosaurus; the White House; the British pound; a plane; a train; a vampire night bus; his own books; press about his own books; existential dread; his own concept of linear time. So much of it is also biting social commentary and political satire about current events and controversies, like "Pounded In The Butt By The Sentient Manifestation Of My Own Ignorant Climate Change Denial": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRH69VR/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRH69VR/ Or "Pounded By The Pound: Turned Gay By The Socioeconomic Implications Of Britain Leaving The European Union": https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implications-European-ebook/dp/B01HJXVP8G/ https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implicati... He counter-trolled the alt-right "Rabid Puppies" Hugo Award trolls: https://www.therabidpuppies.com/ https://www.therabidpuppies.com/ And wrote "Slammed in the Butt by my own Hugo Award Nomination": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EUC93RE https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EUC93RE Here's another Vox article about his troll of the alt-right "Rabid Puppies": https://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11759842/chuck-tingle-hugo-award-rabid-puppies-explained https://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11759842/chuck-tingle-hugo-awa... >Satirical erotica author Chuck Tingle's massive troll of conservative sci-fi fans, explained: Right-wing sci-fi writers tried to delegitimize the Hugo Awards by nominating a writer no one took seriously. Here's how he took them all by surprise. This video explains his Literary Genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5zLGZfheY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5zLGZfheY >The Literary Genius of Chuck Tingle: Chuck Tingle is an author of some of the best erotica of our time. From dinosaurs to unicorns to political satire, his writing never fails to elicit a sharp tingle down the spine.

swayvil 7y ago

Well it's a gradient, isn't it? Call it a 10% game, where 50% is the threshold of minimal gaming satisfaction.

joe_the_user 7y ago
I don't know you can put it as a percentage. The generated text might associate with what you type but there seems like 0% goals-as-such, 0% available choices-as-such, 0% dangers-as-such. Maybe you 10% "influence" over the random the thing spews but that doesn't seem 10% game even. Edit: also, 0% constraints based on either passed actions or properties of things in the world. As others have noted, it will generally respond to the most obvious action of the scene with either a reason that action is impossible or some entirely unrelated. Perhaps the thing could be trained to give a resource-print-out and then you'd have some idea where hard limits existed.