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Imagine if the "trusted domain" used for the whitelabel site on a subdomain was google.com. Constantly referring to "Google's algorithm" misses the real issue.

by 3xblah 7y ago

Imagine if the "trusted domain" used for the whitelabel site on a subdomain was google.com. Constantly referring to "Google's algorithm" misses the real issue. Google can do whatever it wants. Google can "trust" anyone or no one but itself. Google has all the traffic, not the coupon websites. Do we need laws that govern such middlemen?

fasicle 7y ago
"Google can do whatever it wants" - wouldn't this be anti-competitive behaviour if they stated favouring certain sites in their algorithm? I seem to remember reading somewhere that they get audited to make sure they don't do this, although can't find the link.
- kadoban 7y ago
  I would think they're perfectly allowed to favor certain sites over others, especially with good reasons for doing so. What I would expect to be illegal would be overly favoring their own sites/services over those of competitors, since they are so big and that would be abusing their search marketshare to spread into other markets.
  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    > What I would expect to be illegal would be overly favoring their own sites/services over those of competitors They've been doing this for years in search results, progressively so.
    - kadoban 7y ago
      Didn't the EU get on them for that and they had to pay a large fine? Can't recall the details of what was the offending behavior.
      - ceejayoz 7y ago
        Yes, but specifically for their shopping product. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/27/534524024/google-hit-with-2-7-billion-fine-by-european-antitrust-monitor https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/27/534524024... The practice continues (and continues to worsen), at least in their US version. I can't speak for their European sites.
Matsta 7y ago
As an example, people use the Google sites as a Parasite. I said in my other reply, with the last Google update, most of these pages are over a year old, so it would be hard to replicate it if you were build a site today: https://i.imgur.com/WX9uidg.png https://i.imgur.com/WX9uidg.png

by 3xblah 7y ago

fasicle 7y ago

"Google can do whatever it wants" - wouldn't this be anti-competitive behaviour if they stated favouring certain sites in their algorithm? I seem to remember reading somewhere that they get audited to make sure they don't do this, although can't find the link.

kadoban 7y ago
I would think they're perfectly allowed to favor certain sites over others, especially with good reasons for doing so. What I would expect to be illegal would be overly favoring their own sites/services over those of competitors, since they are so big and that would be abusing their search marketshare to spread into other markets.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  > What I would expect to be illegal would be overly favoring their own sites/services over those of competitors They've been doing this for years in search results, progressively so.
  - kadoban 7y ago
    Didn't the EU get on them for that and they had to pay a large fine? Can't recall the details of what was the offending behavior.
    - ceejayoz 7y ago
      Yes, but specifically for their shopping product. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/27/534524024/google-hit-with-2-7-billion-fine-by-european-antitrust-monitor https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/27/534524024... The practice continues (and continues to worsen), at least in their US version. I can't speak for their European sites.

Matsta 7y ago

As an example, people use the Google sites as a Parasite. I said in my other reply, with the last Google update, most of these pages are over a year old, so it would be hard to replicate it if you were build a site today: https://i.imgur.com/WX9uidg.png https://i.imgur.com/WX9uidg.png