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Rust is moving from irc to discord as a result of mozilla sunsetting their irc server. I know one datapoint is not a trend, but it's a high profile datapoint.

kzrdude 7y ago
Rust has already moved to discord, but it's subject to evaluation and might as well change.
- M2Ys4U 7y ago
  I doubt it'll change. The Rust team simply don't care about privacy. They've been knowingly and willingly violating the GDPR since it came in to force despite constant reminders of that fact.
  - calcifer 7y ago
    > They've been knowingly and willingly violating the GDPR That's quite the inflamatory statement to throw out there without at least providing a source or two.
    - oehtXRwMkIs 7y ago
      I'm guessing they are talking about this issue which has been open for a disturbingly long time: https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io/issues/955 https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io/issues/955
      - kzrdude 7y ago
        It seems to be grinding through to a conclusion. Google analytics has already been removed (2018).
        M2Ys4U 7y ago
        Activity only started after the ICO made contact with them as a result of my complaint. (I also have issues with how slow the ICO are at investigating, but that's a different story)
        steveklabnik 7y ago
        This is not accurate. I can agree that the process has been slow and frustrating, but that’s for us as well. We would have much preferred to have this all sorted a long time ago. I won’t be able to say more than that, but I can’t stand by suggesting that we don’t care about this issue. I’ve been personally advocating for these things longer than that issue has been open.
        jlokier 7y ago
        If you've been personally advocating against the inertia of your team for a long time, I think that lends weight to the idea that "we" (the team) don't care about the issue so much. You do, but not the team you're part of.
        steveklabnik 7y ago
        That could be the case but the inertia doesn’t come from the team.
      - Dylan16807 7y ago
        IPs and the account data you give them. And the complaint is not the collection, just that there's no listing that lets you know they collect IPs. Seems extremely minor. I'm very far from disturbed.
        oehtXRwMkIs 7y ago
        Minor sure, but it's still illegal.
jesse_m 7y ago
fwiw, the Embedded Rust Working Group moved to matrix: https://rust-embedded.github.io/blog/newsletter-18/ https://rust-embedded.github.io/blog/newsletter-18/

kzrdude 7y ago

Rust has already moved to discord, but it's subject to evaluation and might as well change.

M2Ys4U 7y ago
I doubt it'll change. The Rust team simply don't care about privacy. They've been knowingly and willingly violating the GDPR since it came in to force despite constant reminders of that fact.
- calcifer 7y ago
  > They've been knowingly and willingly violating the GDPR That's quite the inflamatory statement to throw out there without at least providing a source or two.
  - oehtXRwMkIs 7y ago
    I'm guessing they are talking about this issue which has been open for a disturbingly long time: https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io/issues/955 https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io/issues/955
    - kzrdude 7y ago
      It seems to be grinding through to a conclusion. Google analytics has already been removed (2018).
      - M2Ys4U 7y ago
        Activity only started after the ICO made contact with them as a result of my complaint. (I also have issues with how slow the ICO are at investigating, but that's a different story)
        steveklabnik 7y ago
        This is not accurate. I can agree that the process has been slow and frustrating, but that’s for us as well. We would have much preferred to have this all sorted a long time ago. I won’t be able to say more than that, but I can’t stand by suggesting that we don’t care about this issue. I’ve been personally advocating for these things longer than that issue has been open.
        jlokier 7y ago
        If you've been personally advocating against the inertia of your team for a long time, I think that lends weight to the idea that "we" (the team) don't care about the issue so much. You do, but not the team you're part of.
        steveklabnik 7y ago
        That could be the case but the inertia doesn’t come from the team.
    - Dylan16807 7y ago
      IPs and the account data you give them. And the complaint is not the collection, just that there's no listing that lets you know they collect IPs. Seems extremely minor. I'm very far from disturbed.
      - oehtXRwMkIs 7y ago
        Minor sure, but it's still illegal.

jesse_m 7y ago

fwiw, the Embedded Rust Working Group moved to matrix: https://rust-embedded.github.io/blog/newsletter-18/ https://rust-embedded.github.io/blog/newsletter-18/