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Ah, right. Basically I vote for firing a primordial soup probe to this sucker.

0xffff2 7y ago
There are people working on the basic technology [0]. It's going to be quite a while before we visit nearby stars though. Even launching a probe that has a reasonable chance of successfully visiting (and communicating back to us!) this star system is probably not going to happen in the lifetime of anyone currently living. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_Starshot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_Starshot
kadoban 7y ago
If the goal is to seed life, why not send something already alive instead? Though I don't think we know what to send that would be a living colony still by the time it arrived, even if we knew how to send it exactly. And it'd probably just die when it arrived unless we get a much better idea of what's there already. An artificial intelligence would likely be the best bet actually, but there's a bunch of challenges there we don't actually know how to solve either. Maybe in a few decades there will be fewer unknowns at least.
swarnie_ 7y ago
That does raise a huge number of ethical issues. Do we have the right to interfere on a planet which may already have life?
- rapind 7y ago
  Survival of the fittest. We launch our virus first... assuming they didn't already launch theirs, in which case it's mutual destruction.
  - gus_massa 7y ago
    Ignoring the moral problems ... Nitpicking: Virus are a bad choice. Most are highly specific and reuse a lot of the machinery of the cell they attack. It's much better to send a mix of bacteria and archaea (ask an specialist to get a good combination of strands that like to live in different conditions (hot/cold, oxygen/no-oxygen, ...)). Put them inside a shell to protect them from radiation and a good shell for landing/crashing (ask another specialist for this part too), perhaps like a multiheaded interplanetary missile with many a copy of your minizoo. Probably anything you send has enough bacterias to have a chance, unless it's super clean an sterilized. They try not to send bacterias to Mars, but I think bacterias will win. They only need a single error to get a free trip. I remember a joke that someone said that Eukaryotes is the method that Prokaryotes use to travel from planet to planet.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
    > Survival of the fittest. Right, which is why the only rational approach to life is to literally try your best to kill everyone that isn't you.

There are people working on the basic technology [0]. It's going to be quite a while before we visit nearby stars though. Even launching a probe that has a reasonable chance of successfully visiting (and communicating back to us!) this star system is probably not going to happen in the lifetime of anyone currently living. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_Starshot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_Starshot

kadoban 7y ago

If the goal is to seed life, why not send something already alive instead? Though I don't think we know what to send that would be a living colony still by the time it arrived, even if we knew how to send it exactly. And it'd probably just die when it arrived unless we get a much better idea of what's there already. An artificial intelligence would likely be the best bet actually, but there's a bunch of challenges there we don't actually know how to solve either. Maybe in a few decades there will be fewer unknowns at least.

swarnie_ 7y ago

That does raise a huge number of ethical issues. Do we have the right to interfere on a planet which may already have life?

rapind 7y ago
Survival of the fittest. We launch our virus first... assuming they didn't already launch theirs, in which case it's mutual destruction.
- gus_massa 7y ago
  Ignoring the moral problems ... Nitpicking: Virus are a bad choice. Most are highly specific and reuse a lot of the machinery of the cell they attack. It's much better to send a mix of bacteria and archaea (ask an specialist to get a good combination of strands that like to live in different conditions (hot/cold, oxygen/no-oxygen, ...)). Put them inside a shell to protect them from radiation and a good shell for landing/crashing (ask another specialist for this part too), perhaps like a multiheaded interplanetary missile with many a copy of your minizoo. Probably anything you send has enough bacterias to have a chance, unless it's super clean an sterilized. They try not to send bacterias to Mars, but I think bacterias will win. They only need a single error to get a free trip. I remember a joke that someone said that Eukaryotes is the method that Prokaryotes use to travel from planet to planet.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
  > Survival of the fittest. Right, which is why the only rational approach to life is to literally try your best to kill everyone that isn't you.