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It doesn't support USB-PD only QC3.0 [1]. I won't buy anything that uses a proprietary charging. [1]https://shop.fairphone.com/en/accessories/usb-charger-eu ht

It doesn't support USB-PD only QC3.0 [1]. I won't buy anything that uses a proprietary charging. [1]https://shop.fairphone.com/en/accessories/usb-charger-eu https://shop.fairphone.com/en/accessories/usb-charger-eu

milankragujevic 7y ago
The SoC, baseband, WiFi, etc. chips are okay, but the charging isn't?
- bri3d 7y ago
  What's unreasonable about that? The charging standard is a lot more likely to affect day to day use. Being unable to charge quickly using a standard USB-C PD charger is much likely to affect me than some ethical argument about the proprietary baseband and SoC, especially when there are literally no alternatives to proprietary basebands.
  - dbrgn 7y ago
    If this is about practical use instead of ethical arguments: I think QC chargers are more widely available right now than USB PD chargers. Basically every Chinese charger or powerbank nowadays does QC. I've rarely seen one with USB PD.
    - ProZsolt 7y ago
      You are right if we only looking at the phone chargers. Actually that's my problem. I don't want to QC be the de facto standard for phone charging. First, with USB PD we have the opportunity to use the same charger for every device we carry with us (Phone, Laptop, Camera, etc.). If my phone doesn't support it then I still have to carry another just for my phone. Second, the USB-C standard prohibits any charging solution other than USB PD. Any proprietary adds another level of confusion using USB-C. Is it supports USB PD, Qualcomm Quick Charge, OnePlus Dash Charge, Oppo Super Vooc, Huawei SuperCharge, Motorola TurboPower or MediaTek Pump Express? In the end, something will fry my laptop if I just plug in a random charger and I will be angry. That's why I hate proprietary charging solutions.
e12e 7y ago
You make it sound like a super rare and quirky standard - but as far as I can tell it's quite wildly supported? https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/04/01/a-comprehensive-list-of-qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0-compatible-devices/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/04/01/a-comprehensive-lis... Addionally it seems it's backwards compatible - you can use an USB charger, but at slower rate?

milankragujevic 7y ago

The SoC, baseband, WiFi, etc. chips are okay, but the charging isn't?

bri3d 7y ago
What's unreasonable about that? The charging standard is a lot more likely to affect day to day use. Being unable to charge quickly using a standard USB-C PD charger is much likely to affect me than some ethical argument about the proprietary baseband and SoC, especially when there are literally no alternatives to proprietary basebands.
- dbrgn 7y ago
  If this is about practical use instead of ethical arguments: I think QC chargers are more widely available right now than USB PD chargers. Basically every Chinese charger or powerbank nowadays does QC. I've rarely seen one with USB PD.
  - ProZsolt 7y ago
    You are right if we only looking at the phone chargers. Actually that's my problem. I don't want to QC be the de facto standard for phone charging. First, with USB PD we have the opportunity to use the same charger for every device we carry with us (Phone, Laptop, Camera, etc.). If my phone doesn't support it then I still have to carry another just for my phone. Second, the USB-C standard prohibits any charging solution other than USB PD. Any proprietary adds another level of confusion using USB-C. Is it supports USB PD, Qualcomm Quick Charge, OnePlus Dash Charge, Oppo Super Vooc, Huawei SuperCharge, Motorola TurboPower or MediaTek Pump Express? In the end, something will fry my laptop if I just plug in a random charger and I will be angry. That's why I hate proprietary charging solutions.

e12e 7y ago

You make it sound like a super rare and quirky standard - but as far as I can tell it's quite wildly supported? https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/04/01/a-comprehensive-list-of-qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0-compatible-devices/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/04/01/a-comprehensive-lis... Addionally it seems it's backwards compatible - you can use an USB charger, but at slower rate?