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Well, RIP to the Gig economy hopefully robots get here soon. Cause I can't see the market surviving this.

ilaksh 7y ago
I am also enthusiastic about robots and doubtful about "the market surviving this". But what happens to people when the robots have all of the jobs? People think it's not going to affect them because their job is special. It's just a matter of a few years difference, everyone's job will be affected. Even computer programming. Why am I so sure about this? Because there is a very large research effort going on aimed at AGI and they _are_ making progress. And the potential rewards are enormous. And the hardware capability is available now.
- michaelmrose 7y ago
  An understanding of rocketry didn't grant us the immediate route to land on the moon without also overcoming substantial obstacles. Given that we don't really understand cognition I would suspect that we don't have enough info to even estimate when we might achieve AGI. A few years is probably hopelessly optimistic.
  - dsirola 7y ago
    People can't even align divs properly. I would say AGI is further away than most people think.
- DeonPenny 7y ago
  Whats with the obsession with jobs. Like healthcare you can easily figure out ways that more than basic necessity are taken care of. Is it really important that we give drivers arbitrary work?
  - ilaksh 7y ago
    I wasn't trying to say that jobs were necessarily important. Just pointing out that most could be affected, not just "easy" ones. I think it is possible that we will need a new paradigm for society, since jobs are a core aspect of the current one.
buboard 7y ago
Driver robots? See you in 20 years Its more likely you ll see drivers forming shell contractor companies so they can still work for both uber and lyft etc
- DeonPenny 7y ago
  Yeh this has happened in a lot of other countries. It's why this won't affect google. Cause they hire companies that hire contractors.
- 0xffff2 7y ago
  20 years is optimistic. Real fully autonomous self-driving cars will arrive 10 years after fusion power becomes commercially viable.
  - buboard 7y ago
    haha. well i m hopeful that if we change the roads we can at least have autonomous train-cars or at least kiva robots with seats
joey_bob 7y ago
Yes, "robots". https://www.techidence.com/kiwibots-are-not-fully-autonomous-and-are-controlled-by-operators-in-colombia/ https://www.techidence.com/kiwibots-are-not-fully-autonomous... With the advent of starlink, who knows what else can be outsourced.

I am also enthusiastic about robots and doubtful about "the market surviving this". But what happens to people when the robots have all of the jobs? People think it's not going to affect them because their job is special. It's just a matter of a few years difference, everyone's job will be affected. Even computer programming. Why am I so sure about this? Because there is a very large research effort going on aimed at AGI and they _are_ making progress. And the potential rewards are enormous. And the hardware capability is available now.

michaelmrose 7y ago
An understanding of rocketry didn't grant us the immediate route to land on the moon without also overcoming substantial obstacles. Given that we don't really understand cognition I would suspect that we don't have enough info to even estimate when we might achieve AGI. A few years is probably hopelessly optimistic.
- dsirola 7y ago
  People can't even align divs properly. I would say AGI is further away than most people think.
DeonPenny 7y ago
Whats with the obsession with jobs. Like healthcare you can easily figure out ways that more than basic necessity are taken care of. Is it really important that we give drivers arbitrary work?
- ilaksh 7y ago
  I wasn't trying to say that jobs were necessarily important. Just pointing out that most could be affected, not just "easy" ones. I think it is possible that we will need a new paradigm for society, since jobs are a core aspect of the current one.

buboard 7y ago

Driver robots? See you in 20 years Its more likely you ll see drivers forming shell contractor companies so they can still work for both uber and lyft etc

DeonPenny 7y ago
Yeh this has happened in a lot of other countries. It's why this won't affect google. Cause they hire companies that hire contractors.
0xffff2 7y ago
20 years is optimistic. Real fully autonomous self-driving cars will arrive 10 years after fusion power becomes commercially viable.
- buboard 7y ago
  haha. well i m hopeful that if we change the roads we can at least have autonomous train-cars or at least kiva robots with seats

joey_bob 7y ago

Yes, "robots". https://www.techidence.com/kiwibots-are-not-fully-autonomous-and-are-controlled-by-operators-in-colombia/ https://www.techidence.com/kiwibots-are-not-fully-autonomous... With the advent of starlink, who knows what else can be outsourced.