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This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want t

This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want to see but didn't? I mean I have an iPhone 8 and what I see are: - An edge-to-edge screen - Longer battery life - Faster processors - Improved cameras (don't care much myself but it is still improved) - FaceID - Updated Wifi and LTE technologies (not sure how much hype that is) - More durable (apparently) and more water resistant (at least compared to my 8) - Multiple wireless headphone support (not sure I need this either but it is still a feature others will use) I don't need to upgrade for any of these things, which is probably a good thing in terms of e-waste, but it is still definitely a clear upgrade from my current phone.

Zelphyr 7y ago
I honestly can't put my finger on it. All those features you listed are great but none of them make me WANT that device. I used to want the new product they announced as soon as they showed it off. Maybe when I hold one in my hands that will change.
- noitsnot 7y ago
  The rumored folding iPhone would have been the wow-factor even if Samsung failed already in their first attempt. I'm not sure how it makes sense for someone to ask people what they would have been looking for to make the announcement worthwhile. Are you hiring? "People don’t know what they want until you show it to them." -Steve Jobs
- mystcb 7y ago
  I somewhat have to agree on the "I used to want the new product as soon as it was shown off" bit. I mean to be clear there are some nice improvements on the iPhone, and it packs a hell of a punch compared to previous versions. For me, it was how the announcements were made, they did seem to just feel like they had a massive "Wow" factor. Even way back on the first iPhone announcement - When Steve was on stage and talking about the Palm and Blackberry devices having "physical keyboards", and that he had merged it all with the iPod with touch screens, to me that seemed like a massive jump. (OK I admit, at the time I was very much in the camp of "my Blackberry's keyboard is the finest!", but I watch the announcement back again... there was a very Steve Jobs finesse to the whole thing!). The more recent announcements have kinda been a bit "meh", and I think maybe it's just that - I think a new type of device that has not been thought about, would bring back the "Wow" factor again. I think, just for me anyway, that jumping over the releases (so skip a release and upgrade), I see more of a jump, than say if I was going between each version. Anyway, my thoughts - and I don't know - maybe others see the same with the announcements not quite as they used to be - due to the slowness of "upgrades" to the product.
  - jsjohnst 7y ago
    I have to agree. The upgraded camera is enough to get me to want to switch, but the keynote itself was rather dull. I generally enjoy the Apple launch events, but they’ve been sliding lately and this just made me feel “that was a waste of time to watch”.
  - steveisdead 7y ago
    http://steveisdead.net http://steveisdead.net
- jboy55 7y ago
  I can put my finger on it, literally, I love the fingerprint sensor for Apple Pay. I see my wife trying to use face-id for it and it seems very convoluted. Until someone shows me a simple a gesture as holding out my phone with my thumb on the fingerprint sensor, I don't have any want for a replacement for my 8.
  - eyeball 7y ago
    Same. I far prefer the fingerprint sensor to Face ID.
    - cpuguy83 7y ago
      Watch is really really nice.
  - hanche 7y ago
    One big problem with the fingerprint sensor: It's thrown off by even a minor amount of moisture.
    - krzyk 7y ago
      Or dryness. During winter I can't get fingerprint sensors to work on my fingers :(
  - ssully 7y ago
    I still have an iPhone 7 so I am in the same boat as you, but don't you just double tap the power button for Apple Pay on FaceID devices? That's the same way you do it with TouchID, except you are using a different button.
    - jboy55 7y ago
      I just know that when I place my phone next to the payment sensor, the phone switches to "pay mode". So if my thumb is there, the action is just put phone next to sensor, put thumb on fingerprint, in one fluid motion. For my wife there's this, place phone next to sensor, lift phone up to look at it, then put it back down. Often times lifting it up causes the payment system to timeout. Perhaps there's a smoother motion, double clicking, then face-id then press. To me, the finger print sensor just means I'm tapping my phone on the sensor.
- usaphp 7y ago
  > one of them make me WANT that device You could have said the same about your iPhone 7. What features of the 7 made you WANT to switch compared to earlier models?
  - Zelphyr 7y ago
    Well, I actually needed it. I jumped into a pool with my 6S in my pocket. Other than that, you make a fair point.
- mcphage 7y ago
  > I used to want the new product they announced as soon as they showed it off. Maybe you’ve grown up some since then? New phones are fun gadgets, but in the end, it’s just a phone.
  - danieldk 7y ago
    It's also because the smartphone became mature. Many of the earlier iPhones had gigantic deltas: 3G, Retina + front-facing camera, Touch ID/secure enclave, > 4 inch display. Now (or at least for now) the changes have become more iterative. The delta between several generations are still nice, but between individual generations are less enticing to immediately upgrade. In the end this is not bad. Upgrading a still perfectly working product every 1 or 2 years is quite insane and taxing for the environment. A lot of credit should go to Apple for maintaining iOS support for old iPhones. This makes it possible for people to keep their phones longer or hand them down. Or for people with lower incomes to buy older generations and still get upgrades. Of course, slower upgrade cycles are bad for manufacturers. So it's smart of Apple to increase revenue through services (Apple Music, Arcade, Apple TV+, iCloud Storage), rather than forcing their customers to upgrade perfectly-fine devices.
- foobarian 7y ago
  The problem is that the improvement of the first iPhone compared to what came before was like 1/x where x is a very small, close to zero number, while the subsequent releases are like 8/7 or 6/5. And to top it off they cost over $1k, which makes it a hard sell for me.
ryanSrich 7y ago
A few that I was hoping for: - a larger screen option. 6.5 isn’t enough - a mini pencil to use on that larger screen - some type of integrated headset or device to use the new iPhone as a VR/AR headset - Better battery life. I know they announced this, but the batteries need to be 10-100x better. I can’t use my phone all day without it dying. I should be able to use it for a week without dying Thought of a few more that would have been good: - a flip phone option, something really innovative (not a joke) - a much smaller version of the iPhone. Like an iPhone nano - a gaming version of the iPhone that had a gpu and could run steam I know some of these sound like science fiction, but that’s kind of the point for Apple events. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad were all next level. What have we gotten from Apple in the last 5 years? Headphones? A notification machine for your wrist?
- aetherspawn 7y ago
  An iPhone with removable handlebars that can transform into a PSP (with paddles, buttons and joysticks) and play games of similar quality to the Switch. The handlebars should be wireless so I can play games with my friends. I should be able to use Apple TV or screen mirror to transfer the games to the TV or to a projector or wireless to any display really. My friends with regular iPhones should be able to stream the games I’m playing if I give them permission, and if we’re in the same room we should be able to play party games easily with less resource intensive (ie score displays or trivia questions or whatever) able to be displayed on their devices. Or they should be able to use their iPhones as 3rd or 4th or ... Nth touch screen virtual controllers for multiplayer. Because it’s a phone, it has a touchscreen for super fast data entry of my online accounts or whatever, 4G and awesome cameras, gyro and accelerometer as well. Now you have my attention.
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- jsjohnst 7y ago
  > a much smaller version of the iPhone. Like an iPhone nano It exists, it’s called the Apple Watch cellular edition.
- 7y ago
tyre 7y ago
iPhones at this stage feel like cameras first and the rest is standard. I’m also on a 7 Plus. This iteration feels far enough ahead of mine to be worth considering. The only other update I want is more battery life. They’re thin enough; make them a third thicker with all of that used for battery. Or just thicker so the new camera is flush against the back casing.
- jsjohnst 7y ago
  > Or just thicker so the new camera is flush against the back casing. SERIOUSLY! Why does the <1mm thinner matter so much to them to have the fugly camera bump instead? That space surely could be used by a slightly bigger battery if nothing else.
  - cookingrobot 7y ago
    I think they designed it to be used with a case. It feels badly designed without one because it can’t even lie flat on a table without wobbling, but with a case everything is flush.
- ollie87 7y ago
  In the same situation, my launch model 7 Plus still reports 92% battery health and has generally been a good device. The XR didn't interest me, but the 11 has my attention a little more.
ekanes 7y ago
Most of the things you listed are evolutionary improvements rather than revolutionary improvements. None of them are radical bold new concepts.
sgarman 7y ago
I can't believe we don't have higher refresh rates on iPhones yet. Apple got user experience with touch screens better then anyone else when the iPhone originally launched. Apple brought it to iPad, i'd like to see it in iPhone.
- sdan 7y ago
  It's absurd Apple is selling "Pro" phones without refresh rates over 60. What year is it? 2016? A whole bunch of phone manufacturers are making 90+ hz screens.
  - Aeolun 7y ago
    Is it? This is literally the first time in my life I’ve ever heard someone say they wanted a higher refresh rate on their phone.
    - lucisferre 7y ago
      Honestly, I would have never actually noticed if someone had not told me. Perhaps I'm just getting old.
    - batiudrami 7y ago
      It's a "nice to have" feature. The problem, I think, is that the 11 Pro still has its very high asking price and is missing a bunch of "nice to haves". Things I was hoping for: - USB-C charging - 5G (for futureproofing, more than anything) - High refresh rate screen - Refreshed/less dated looking design (that notch has aged very poorly, regardless of the tech they squeeze into it) - Larger default storage - No touch ID/in screen fingerprint reader None of those missing features are deal breakers, but without all of them it makes this phone seem iterative and a difficult sell - especially since it seems likely/is rumoured that a lot of them will come next year.
      - hacym 7y ago
        They've said for a while that 5G wasn't coming to this generation. I think it's good they left it off. Apple doesn't bring in halfbaked features. They wait for the technology to be stable. 5G is far from that. It requires reworked battery technology, antenna systems, and we don't even have a complete picture of the effects on our health. The phones that have 5G currently have terrible battery life and are hundreds of dollars more expensive than their non-5G counterparts. All for the 20 or so cities that have it. Once the technology is actually ready for primetime, Apple will include it. And it will work way better than anything you're seeing right now.
thelittleone 7y ago
I've been hoping for something like this for a long while now: https://ibb.co/yF5FSbp https://ibb.co/yF5FSbp Is there any use case where WiFi + Bluetooth hotspot makes more sense than enabling each separately. Bluetooth is a huge battery drain. To avoid this as it is now, I have to select Wifi + Bluetooh, wait for my device to connect via WiFi then go back to settings and disable bluetooth. If I forgot to do so, my battery is gone in a few hours. With battery life being such a priority, I'm genuinely puzzled as to why this hasn't already been implemented.
- mercutio2 7y ago
  In the general population, enabling bluetooth is not a battery drain. Quite the contrary; having it turned off tends to result in worse battery life. If you are reliably experiencing something you can clearly pin on Bluetooth, you either have very unusual usage patterns, or are experiencing a severe bug.
  - vageli 7y ago
    > In the general population, enabling bluetooth is not a battery drain. Quite the contrary; having it turned off tends to result in worse battery life. Having bluetooth turned off results in _worse_ battery life? How so?
    - mercutio2 7y ago
      Disabled Bluetooth in certain decision trees leads to spinning up more expensive radios, when passive Bluetooth would have worked effectively, for less power.
      - vageli 7y ago
        Can you give a concrete example? This seems counter to my personal experience.
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fmajid 7y ago
I'm still on my iPhone 6, and I am not going to get the 11 either, in fact I have been dabbling with LineageOS on a Xiaomi Pocophone F1 as a second travel phone. What would make me "upgrade" (not sure if I can really call that an upgrade in the absence of a headphone port). Must-haves: 1. USB-C 2. 5G support using a single-chip like the Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 baseband chipset (not a separate 4g and 5G chip as with the X50) 3. No more stupid notch Nice to have: 4. Some sort of anti-slip ridges or grip milled into the casework 5. Getting TouchID back 6. No more stupid lens bump
- altec3 7y ago
  Anti slip would be amazing. Without a case my iPhone X slips on every surface, including my hands. The notch isn't so bad, I'll fullscreen videos and don't even notice it.
  - chiph 7y ago
    I solved the too-slippery case on my Windows Phone by putting some clear skateboard tape on the back edges. I should do this on my XR...
    - selectodude 7y ago
      Sounds like a good way to sand a hole in your pants.
      - chiph 7y ago
        You would think so. :) But I wore slacks back then not jeans (office dress code) so there wasn't a lot of pressure on your pocket lining.
- thekid314 7y ago
  I was hoping their "One more thing" would be tracking tags with precise positioning and an AR viewer to see exactly where something is placed in the world.
LaGrange 7y ago
I actually don't want an edge-to-edge screen or FaceID, though, and 5S is already a bit bigger than I'd like. So no, it's not a clear upgrade. I'd probably grin and bear it, but it does feel like people don't sell phone's I'd actually like anymore.
rorykoehler 7y ago
By all accounts the phones are amazing and the new video shooting modes are a big step forward. That said after going back to the iPhone se recently I realise that it's the sweet spot phone for me. It does everything I want my phone to do and doesn't feel bloated by loads of amazing tech I'll never use once the novelty wears off.
beowulfey 7y ago
The thing I was 100% hoping for but did not expect at all was a new haptic feedback engine. I think the next big thing Apple could improve would be localized feedback. I want to be able to feel a button when I drag a finger across the screen, for example. There were zero rumors of this, it was just wishful thinking, but man if I didn't dream...
- davidmurdoch 7y ago
  I'm also still waiting for this: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/421191/a-touch-screen-with-texture/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/421191/a-touch-screen-wit...
- pubutil 7y ago
  That’d be really cool to have, especially on a haptic keyboard! Unfortunately Apple seems averse to the idea of haptic feedback on a keyboard. On a similar note, I’ve been disappointed in the removal of 3D Touch. I understand that it adds complexity to the display layer, but replacing 3D Touch with long-presses doesn’t really cut it for me
  - jrobn 7y ago
    3D Touch was a horrible interface mechanism.
    - spockz 7y ago
      Perhaps it was horrible, but it allowed me to jump directly into specific features of an app. With only a bit of practice. Now you need to wait for the long press or first start the app and something. Sending a message or mail to favourites now became slower.
iTokio 7y ago
> enabling an unprecedented leap in battery life to easily get through the day Sic.. they don’t even really try to sell a longer battery life, they just are content of getting through the day
chillfox 7y ago
I have got a 7. I don't want the screen going to the edge. I want the fingerprint thing, not FaceID. The rest are nice I guess, but those two things are the sticking points.
ssalka 7y ago
Biggest asks for me are putting back touch ID (ideally under screen but on back is fine too), headphone jack, removing the notch, installing custom APKs. They have the means to do all of these things, but don't for ideological reasons that only they seem to hold.
nothis 7y ago
>I don't need to upgrade for any of these things, which is probably a good thing in terms of e-waste, but it is still definitely a clear upgrade from my current phone. I don't think anyone doubts the "clear upgrade" part. It's the "need" part we're talking about, here.

Zelphyr 7y ago

I honestly can't put my finger on it. All those features you listed are great but none of them make me WANT that device. I used to want the new product they announced as soon as they showed it off. Maybe when I hold one in my hands that will change.

noitsnot 7y ago
The rumored folding iPhone would have been the wow-factor even if Samsung failed already in their first attempt. I'm not sure how it makes sense for someone to ask people what they would have been looking for to make the announcement worthwhile. Are you hiring? "People don’t know what they want until you show it to them." -Steve Jobs
mystcb 7y ago
I somewhat have to agree on the "I used to want the new product as soon as it was shown off" bit. I mean to be clear there are some nice improvements on the iPhone, and it packs a hell of a punch compared to previous versions. For me, it was how the announcements were made, they did seem to just feel like they had a massive "Wow" factor. Even way back on the first iPhone announcement - When Steve was on stage and talking about the Palm and Blackberry devices having "physical keyboards", and that he had merged it all with the iPod with touch screens, to me that seemed like a massive jump. (OK I admit, at the time I was very much in the camp of "my Blackberry's keyboard is the finest!", but I watch the announcement back again... there was a very Steve Jobs finesse to the whole thing!). The more recent announcements have kinda been a bit "meh", and I think maybe it's just that - I think a new type of device that has not been thought about, would bring back the "Wow" factor again. I think, just for me anyway, that jumping over the releases (so skip a release and upgrade), I see more of a jump, than say if I was going between each version. Anyway, my thoughts - and I don't know - maybe others see the same with the announcements not quite as they used to be - due to the slowness of "upgrades" to the product.
- jsjohnst 7y ago
  I have to agree. The upgraded camera is enough to get me to want to switch, but the keynote itself was rather dull. I generally enjoy the Apple launch events, but they’ve been sliding lately and this just made me feel “that was a waste of time to watch”.
- steveisdead 7y ago
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jboy55 7y ago
I can put my finger on it, literally, I love the fingerprint sensor for Apple Pay. I see my wife trying to use face-id for it and it seems very convoluted. Until someone shows me a simple a gesture as holding out my phone with my thumb on the fingerprint sensor, I don't have any want for a replacement for my 8.
- eyeball 7y ago
  Same. I far prefer the fingerprint sensor to Face ID.
  - cpuguy83 7y ago
    Watch is really really nice.
- hanche 7y ago
  One big problem with the fingerprint sensor: It's thrown off by even a minor amount of moisture.
  - krzyk 7y ago
    Or dryness. During winter I can't get fingerprint sensors to work on my fingers :(
- ssully 7y ago
  I still have an iPhone 7 so I am in the same boat as you, but don't you just double tap the power button for Apple Pay on FaceID devices? That's the same way you do it with TouchID, except you are using a different button.
  - jboy55 7y ago
    I just know that when I place my phone next to the payment sensor, the phone switches to "pay mode". So if my thumb is there, the action is just put phone next to sensor, put thumb on fingerprint, in one fluid motion. For my wife there's this, place phone next to sensor, lift phone up to look at it, then put it back down. Often times lifting it up causes the payment system to timeout. Perhaps there's a smoother motion, double clicking, then face-id then press. To me, the finger print sensor just means I'm tapping my phone on the sensor.
usaphp 7y ago
> one of them make me WANT that device You could have said the same about your iPhone 7. What features of the 7 made you WANT to switch compared to earlier models?
- Zelphyr 7y ago
  Well, I actually needed it. I jumped into a pool with my 6S in my pocket. Other than that, you make a fair point.
mcphage 7y ago
> I used to want the new product they announced as soon as they showed it off. Maybe you’ve grown up some since then? New phones are fun gadgets, but in the end, it’s just a phone.
- danieldk 7y ago
  It's also because the smartphone became mature. Many of the earlier iPhones had gigantic deltas: 3G, Retina + front-facing camera, Touch ID/secure enclave, > 4 inch display. Now (or at least for now) the changes have become more iterative. The delta between several generations are still nice, but between individual generations are less enticing to immediately upgrade. In the end this is not bad. Upgrading a still perfectly working product every 1 or 2 years is quite insane and taxing for the environment. A lot of credit should go to Apple for maintaining iOS support for old iPhones. This makes it possible for people to keep their phones longer or hand them down. Or for people with lower incomes to buy older generations and still get upgrades. Of course, slower upgrade cycles are bad for manufacturers. So it's smart of Apple to increase revenue through services (Apple Music, Arcade, Apple TV+, iCloud Storage), rather than forcing their customers to upgrade perfectly-fine devices.
foobarian 7y ago
The problem is that the improvement of the first iPhone compared to what came before was like 1/x where x is a very small, close to zero number, while the subsequent releases are like 8/7 or 6/5. And to top it off they cost over $1k, which makes it a hard sell for me.

ryanSrich 7y ago

A few that I was hoping for: - a larger screen option. 6.5 isn’t enough - a mini pencil to use on that larger screen - some type of integrated headset or device to use the new iPhone as a VR/AR headset - Better battery life. I know they announced this, but the batteries need to be 10-100x better. I can’t use my phone all day without it dying. I should be able to use it for a week without dying Thought of a few more that would have been good: - a flip phone option, something really innovative (not a joke) - a much smaller version of the iPhone. Like an iPhone nano - a gaming version of the iPhone that had a gpu and could run steam I know some of these sound like science fiction, but that’s kind of the point for Apple events. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad were all next level. What have we gotten from Apple in the last 5 years? Headphones? A notification machine for your wrist?

aetherspawn 7y ago
An iPhone with removable handlebars that can transform into a PSP (with paddles, buttons and joysticks) and play games of similar quality to the Switch. The handlebars should be wireless so I can play games with my friends. I should be able to use Apple TV or screen mirror to transfer the games to the TV or to a projector or wireless to any display really. My friends with regular iPhones should be able to stream the games I’m playing if I give them permission, and if we’re in the same room we should be able to play party games easily with less resource intensive (ie score displays or trivia questions or whatever) able to be displayed on their devices. Or they should be able to use their iPhones as 3rd or 4th or ... Nth touch screen virtual controllers for multiplayer. Because it’s a phone, it has a touchscreen for super fast data entry of my online accounts or whatever, 4G and awesome cameras, gyro and accelerometer as well. Now you have my attention.
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jsjohnst 7y ago
> a much smaller version of the iPhone. Like an iPhone nano It exists, it’s called the Apple Watch cellular edition.
7y ago

tyre 7y ago

iPhones at this stage feel like cameras first and the rest is standard. I’m also on a 7 Plus. This iteration feels far enough ahead of mine to be worth considering. The only other update I want is more battery life. They’re thin enough; make them a third thicker with all of that used for battery. Or just thicker so the new camera is flush against the back casing.

jsjohnst 7y ago
> Or just thicker so the new camera is flush against the back casing. SERIOUSLY! Why does the <1mm thinner matter so much to them to have the fugly camera bump instead? That space surely could be used by a slightly bigger battery if nothing else.
- cookingrobot 7y ago
  I think they designed it to be used with a case. It feels badly designed without one because it can’t even lie flat on a table without wobbling, but with a case everything is flush.
ollie87 7y ago
In the same situation, my launch model 7 Plus still reports 92% battery health and has generally been a good device. The XR didn't interest me, but the 11 has my attention a little more.

ekanes 7y ago

Most of the things you listed are evolutionary improvements rather than revolutionary improvements. None of them are radical bold new concepts.

sgarman 7y ago

I can't believe we don't have higher refresh rates on iPhones yet. Apple got user experience with touch screens better then anyone else when the iPhone originally launched. Apple brought it to iPad, i'd like to see it in iPhone.

sdan 7y ago
It's absurd Apple is selling "Pro" phones without refresh rates over 60. What year is it? 2016? A whole bunch of phone manufacturers are making 90+ hz screens.
- Aeolun 7y ago
  Is it? This is literally the first time in my life I’ve ever heard someone say they wanted a higher refresh rate on their phone.
  - lucisferre 7y ago
    Honestly, I would have never actually noticed if someone had not told me. Perhaps I'm just getting old.
  - batiudrami 7y ago
    It's a "nice to have" feature. The problem, I think, is that the 11 Pro still has its very high asking price and is missing a bunch of "nice to haves". Things I was hoping for: - USB-C charging - 5G (for futureproofing, more than anything) - High refresh rate screen - Refreshed/less dated looking design (that notch has aged very poorly, regardless of the tech they squeeze into it) - Larger default storage - No touch ID/in screen fingerprint reader None of those missing features are deal breakers, but without all of them it makes this phone seem iterative and a difficult sell - especially since it seems likely/is rumoured that a lot of them will come next year.
    - hacym 7y ago
      They've said for a while that 5G wasn't coming to this generation. I think it's good they left it off. Apple doesn't bring in halfbaked features. They wait for the technology to be stable. 5G is far from that. It requires reworked battery technology, antenna systems, and we don't even have a complete picture of the effects on our health. The phones that have 5G currently have terrible battery life and are hundreds of dollars more expensive than their non-5G counterparts. All for the 20 or so cities that have it. Once the technology is actually ready for primetime, Apple will include it. And it will work way better than anything you're seeing right now.

thelittleone 7y ago

I've been hoping for something like this for a long while now: https://ibb.co/yF5FSbp https://ibb.co/yF5FSbp Is there any use case where WiFi + Bluetooth hotspot makes more sense than enabling each separately. Bluetooth is a huge battery drain. To avoid this as it is now, I have to select Wifi + Bluetooh, wait for my device to connect via WiFi then go back to settings and disable bluetooth. If I forgot to do so, my battery is gone in a few hours. With battery life being such a priority, I'm genuinely puzzled as to why this hasn't already been implemented.

mercutio2 7y ago
In the general population, enabling bluetooth is not a battery drain. Quite the contrary; having it turned off tends to result in worse battery life. If you are reliably experiencing something you can clearly pin on Bluetooth, you either have very unusual usage patterns, or are experiencing a severe bug.
- vageli 7y ago
  > In the general population, enabling bluetooth is not a battery drain. Quite the contrary; having it turned off tends to result in worse battery life. Having bluetooth turned off results in _worse_ battery life? How so?
  - mercutio2 7y ago
    Disabled Bluetooth in certain decision trees leads to spinning up more expensive radios, when passive Bluetooth would have worked effectively, for less power.
    - vageli 7y ago
      Can you give a concrete example? This seems counter to my personal experience.
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fmajid 7y ago

I'm still on my iPhone 6, and I am not going to get the 11 either, in fact I have been dabbling with LineageOS on a Xiaomi Pocophone F1 as a second travel phone. What would make me "upgrade" (not sure if I can really call that an upgrade in the absence of a headphone port). Must-haves: 1. USB-C 2. 5G support using a single-chip like the Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 baseband chipset (not a separate 4g and 5G chip as with the X50) 3. No more stupid notch Nice to have: 4. Some sort of anti-slip ridges or grip milled into the casework 5. Getting TouchID back 6. No more stupid lens bump

altec3 7y ago
Anti slip would be amazing. Without a case my iPhone X slips on every surface, including my hands. The notch isn't so bad, I'll fullscreen videos and don't even notice it.
- chiph 7y ago
  I solved the too-slippery case on my Windows Phone by putting some clear skateboard tape on the back edges. I should do this on my XR...
  - selectodude 7y ago
    Sounds like a good way to sand a hole in your pants.
    - chiph 7y ago
      You would think so. :) But I wore slacks back then not jeans (office dress code) so there wasn't a lot of pressure on your pocket lining.
thekid314 7y ago
I was hoping their "One more thing" would be tracking tags with precise positioning and an AR viewer to see exactly where something is placed in the world.

LaGrange 7y ago

I actually don't want an edge-to-edge screen or FaceID, though, and 5S is already a bit bigger than I'd like. So no, it's not a clear upgrade. I'd probably grin and bear it, but it does feel like people don't sell phone's I'd actually like anymore.

rorykoehler 7y ago

By all accounts the phones are amazing and the new video shooting modes are a big step forward. That said after going back to the iPhone se recently I realise that it's the sweet spot phone for me. It does everything I want my phone to do and doesn't feel bloated by loads of amazing tech I'll never use once the novelty wears off.

beowulfey 7y ago

The thing I was 100% hoping for but did not expect at all was a new haptic feedback engine. I think the next big thing Apple could improve would be localized feedback. I want to be able to feel a button when I drag a finger across the screen, for example. There were zero rumors of this, it was just wishful thinking, but man if I didn't dream...

davidmurdoch 7y ago
I'm also still waiting for this: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/421191/a-touch-screen-with-texture/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/421191/a-touch-screen-wit...
pubutil 7y ago
That’d be really cool to have, especially on a haptic keyboard! Unfortunately Apple seems averse to the idea of haptic feedback on a keyboard. On a similar note, I’ve been disappointed in the removal of 3D Touch. I understand that it adds complexity to the display layer, but replacing 3D Touch with long-presses doesn’t really cut it for me
- jrobn 7y ago
  3D Touch was a horrible interface mechanism.
  - spockz 7y ago
    Perhaps it was horrible, but it allowed me to jump directly into specific features of an app. With only a bit of practice. Now you need to wait for the long press or first start the app and something. Sending a message or mail to favourites now became slower.

iTokio 7y ago

> enabling an unprecedented leap in battery life to easily get through the day Sic.. they don’t even really try to sell a longer battery life, they just are content of getting through the day

chillfox 7y ago

I have got a 7. I don't want the screen going to the edge. I want the fingerprint thing, not FaceID. The rest are nice I guess, but those two things are the sticking points.

ssalka 7y ago

Biggest asks for me are putting back touch ID (ideally under screen but on back is fine too), headphone jack, removing the notch, installing custom APKs. They have the means to do all of these things, but don't for ideological reasons that only they seem to hold.

nothis 7y ago

>I don't need to upgrade for any of these things, which is probably a good thing in terms of e-waste, but it is still definitely a clear upgrade from my current phone. I don't think anyone doubts the "clear upgrade" part. It's the "need" part we're talking about, here.