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Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. (Will interrupt hotspot) ArsTechnica has an excellent live blog going of it. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/

by mey 16y ago

Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. (Will interrupt hotspot) ArsTechnica has an excellent live blog going of it. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/liveblog-of-verizons-special-event-cdma-iphone-ahoy.ars http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/liveblog-of-veri...

roadnottaken 16y ago
>Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. (Will interrupt hotspot) Wow, this reminds me of being on dial-up in the 1990s.
- berberich 16y ago
  The CDMA Development Group announced provisions for SVDO, or Simultaneous 1x Voice and EV-DO Data in 2009, but there hasn't been much news on it since. My guess is that Verizon will just continue upgrading its network for LTE instead of making this interim upgrade.
  - detst 16y ago
    They stated at CES that they'll bring simultaneous voice and data; I'm assuming that's SVDO but perhaps they're doing it some other way. From Q&A at CES: "Q: What about simultaneous voice and data? A: Some devices will. Q: Just some devices, not all? A: Not ready to comment at this point."
schammy 16y ago
> Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. I don't see why people make a big deal out of this. How often do you really need to talk AND use data at the same time? I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever had to or even had the inclination that I wished I could. I think it's one of those features that sounds cool, but in reality no one really uses.
- tortilla 16y ago
  Maybe you're using the hotspot (downloading something, streaming, skype) and you get a call.
- lusis 16y ago
  Actually it's one limitation about CDMA that I hate. I would love to use one of the reverse lookup apps to get details about unknown callers but I can't because the operation of receiving the call means it can't simultaneously do the lookup. I also hate having some sync operation get stopped because I get a call. It's more annoying than you think but not a total deal breaker.
- haribilalic 16y ago
  I've often gone through the steps of saying "hold on" while on a call and launching Safari, Mail or some other app to check something that was being discussed (e.g. "Did you get my email?" "Not yet, I'll check now"). It'd be worse if you're using it as a hotspot and you're sharing the hotspot with other people. It's not essential, but it's not useless either.
- bluegene 16y ago
  Let's say you have 5 people connected to your phone's wireless hotspot and a call comes, everyone lose their connectivity
- modoc 16y ago
  I use it all the time. I'll often be on the phone (using a headset) and pull up information online, or send out an e-mail to someone on the con-call, or pull up a new document in DropBox, or..... Add in using it a Wifi hotspot, and getting your VPN connection/download/SSH session/whatever interrupted every time your phone rings would be REALLY annoying.
  - ohhmaagawd 16y ago
    it doesn't drop internet when it rings, it drops when you answer. right?
- 16y ago
kemiller 16y ago
Perhaps the skype announcement that was floating around will ameliorate that somehow.
dhimes 16y ago
love this: #Ironically, ATT service here at the Time Warner Center for a Verizon event is excellent. by jtimmer at 1/11/2011 4:30:14 PM11:30 AM
mziulu 16y ago
Could someone please explain how this hotspot feature usually works for smartphones? I'm having a discussion with a friend about this, but we're going nowhere since I don't own a smartphone and thus I'm not really sure what's the default here and how this iPhone does things differently. [edit] what I expect is this: if I'm connected to a wifi hotspot to browse the Internet and I receive a telephone call, I should not drop the connection to the hotspot (am I wrong in understanding that this is NOT what this iPhone does?).
- brown9-2 16y ago
  "You can use it as a WiFi Hotspot" means that you can use the phone to broadcast a WiFi signal for nearby computers/devices to use to access the Internet. The phone acts as a WiFi access point, using the cellular network to relay the devices connected to it to the Internet.
  - mziulu 16y ago
    Yeah, this is ok, but how does this iPhone behave differently than the usual here? Do the other phones (when acting as hotspot) keep broadcasting the WiFi signal when receiving data over the cellular network?
    - InclinedPlane 16y ago
      This is basically what is called "tethering", using the 3G internet connection of the phone for other devices (such as your laptop), except that the "tether" is no a physical connection but just a wifi connection. In other words, you put your phone into this mode and you can connect to it through wifi and have wireless internet anywhere you have 3G coverage. AT&T does not offer the same service.
      - orangecat 16y ago
        AT&T does not offer the same service. Of course, it's worth noting that tethering isn't a "service" that carriers have to build or support. It's an inherent capability of a sufficiently advanced computing device that has access to two networks simultaneously. But in a textbook case of non-neutrality, AT&T (and others) prevent you from using that capability unless you pay them to remove the entirely artificial restriction.

by mey 16y ago

roadnottaken 16y ago

>Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. (Will interrupt hotspot) Wow, this reminds me of being on dial-up in the 1990s.

berberich 16y ago
The CDMA Development Group announced provisions for SVDO, or Simultaneous 1x Voice and EV-DO Data in 2009, but there hasn't been much news on it since. My guess is that Verizon will just continue upgrading its network for LTE instead of making this interim upgrade.
- detst 16y ago
  They stated at CES that they'll bring simultaneous voice and data; I'm assuming that's SVDO but perhaps they're doing it some other way. From Q&A at CES: "Q: What about simultaneous voice and data? A: Some devices will. Q: Just some devices, not all? A: Not ready to comment at this point."

schammy 16y ago

> Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. I don't see why people make a big deal out of this. How often do you really need to talk AND use data at the same time? I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever had to or even had the inclination that I wished I could. I think it's one of those features that sounds cool, but in reality no one really uses.

tortilla 16y ago
Maybe you're using the hotspot (downloading something, streaming, skype) and you get a call.
lusis 16y ago
Actually it's one limitation about CDMA that I hate. I would love to use one of the reverse lookup apps to get details about unknown callers but I can't because the operation of receiving the call means it can't simultaneously do the lookup. I also hate having some sync operation get stopped because I get a call. It's more annoying than you think but not a total deal breaker.
haribilalic 16y ago
I've often gone through the steps of saying "hold on" while on a call and launching Safari, Mail or some other app to check something that was being discussed (e.g. "Did you get my email?" "Not yet, I'll check now"). It'd be worse if you're using it as a hotspot and you're sharing the hotspot with other people. It's not essential, but it's not useless either.
bluegene 16y ago
Let's say you have 5 people connected to your phone's wireless hotspot and a call comes, everyone lose their connectivity
modoc 16y ago
I use it all the time. I'll often be on the phone (using a headset) and pull up information online, or send out an e-mail to someone on the con-call, or pull up a new document in DropBox, or..... Add in using it a Wifi hotspot, and getting your VPN connection/download/SSH session/whatever interrupted every time your phone rings would be REALLY annoying.
- ohhmaagawd 16y ago
  it doesn't drop internet when it rings, it drops when you answer. right?
16y ago

kemiller 16y ago

Perhaps the skype announcement that was floating around will ameliorate that somehow.

dhimes 16y ago

love this: #Ironically, ATT service here at the Time Warner Center for a Verizon event is excellent. by jtimmer at 1/11/2011 4:30:14 PM11:30 AM

mziulu 16y ago

Could someone please explain how this hotspot feature usually works for smartphones? I'm having a discussion with a friend about this, but we're going nowhere since I don't own a smartphone and thus I'm not really sure what's the default here and how this iPhone does things differently. [edit] what I expect is this: if I'm connected to a wifi hotspot to browse the Internet and I receive a telephone call, I should not drop the connection to the hotspot (am I wrong in understanding that this is NOT what this iPhone does?).

brown9-2 16y ago
"You can use it as a WiFi Hotspot" means that you can use the phone to broadcast a WiFi signal for nearby computers/devices to use to access the Internet. The phone acts as a WiFi access point, using the cellular network to relay the devices connected to it to the Internet.
- mziulu 16y ago
  Yeah, this is ok, but how does this iPhone behave differently than the usual here? Do the other phones (when acting as hotspot) keep broadcasting the WiFi signal when receiving data over the cellular network?
  - InclinedPlane 16y ago
    This is basically what is called "tethering", using the 3G internet connection of the phone for other devices (such as your laptop), except that the "tether" is no a physical connection but just a wifi connection. In other words, you put your phone into this mode and you can connect to it through wifi and have wireless internet anywhere you have 3G coverage. AT&T does not offer the same service.
    - orangecat 16y ago
      AT&T does not offer the same service. Of course, it's worth noting that tethering isn't a "service" that carriers have to build or support. It's an inherent capability of a sufficiently advanced computing device that has access to two networks simultaneously. But in a textbook case of non-neutrality, AT&T (and others) prevent you from using that capability unless you pay them to remove the entirely artificial restriction.